Breaking MLM Wireless War News: MLM Help Desk and Troy Dooly Officially responds to Global Verge (read response here) through MLM attorney Kevin Thompson of The Advocate Group.
Those of you, who read our articles or are subscribers to MLM Help Desk, know MLM attorney and advocate Kevin Thompson is both a friend and our legal counsel. As I wrote in my last post, I had forwarded to Kevin the letter from the Global Verge attorney along with my response.
As you know, Global Verge’s attorney sent me a threatening letter last week (read Global Verge Demand Letter here) and alleged that my content was defamatory. Specifically, their attorneys aid that the following title was defamatory and “not true”
Over the weekend, Kevin and I had a conversation. In the interest of fairness and based on Kevin’s legal counsel, we are disclosing our source of information to publicly demonstrate our factual basis for writing the article. Activation King’s CEO, Chris Greco, specifically informed me that Global Verge was dropped because of their failure to pay.
On, January 21st, 2009 we received the following email. I followed up with a personal phone call to Chris Greco to verify he had personally sent the email and not some underhanded competitor of Global Verge.
[“From: chris greco [chris@activationkingwireless.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:32 PM
To: TroyDooly@mlmhelpdesk.com
Subject: We have officially cut ties with Buzzirk mobile and Global Verge
. . .We have severed ties with Global Verge for nonpayment of airtime, and the absolute miss management of shipping, activating, you name it. And for taking these people money and telling them bold face lies. . . .
Chris Greco
President and CEO
Activation King Wireless.]
Once I verified the email was authentic, I shot the video, and we published the article. For all those interested, Chris Greco has followed up by answering all critics and supporters on the above-mentioned post, through the MLM Help Desk comment section.
As readers of our content, we’re eternally grateful that you choose to spend a little bit of time with us to learn more about our industry. As you know, we publicly celebrate the great companies and we publicly call out the bad ones. I view it as part of my responsibility in this industry and it’s an absolute privilege. I have zero economic incentive to wrongfully disparage a business.
As always, we welcome Global Verge to respond with proper documentation. And if they have a different side to the story, I will give my word to publish it. We want to encourage vigorous debate on this website and if I’m in the wrong, I will be the first to admit it. Currently, I have no reason to believe otherwise than what I’ve already written about Global Verge and until I’m given new information, I will not acquiesce to threats of a legal action.
Living An Epic Adventure,
TROY isnt it true that if GV were to file suit against you that you, and YOUR atty would be enttled to' discovery" ," requiring them to open their financial and business records to you? As a part of you preparing for your defense of thier lawsuit? IS THIS CORRECT?
Mable,
Since I am not an attorney, I am not sure how all this works… But I can sure promise you that if a lawsuit is filed, every post I have written will be brought into evidence, and we will demand Global Verge to debunk my posts or admit to the facts being true and accurate.
When will it ever end….this company has been a mess since last summer and does not appear to be getting any better. I know they do not particularly like what you have to say, Troy, but I commend you for keeping with it.
Hi Troy,
Great video and post as always. You know, when someone like Global Verge puts out claims, and they have been whoppers, you have to expect scrutiny from reps or people considering entering the business. When things are wriiten and information passed on with sources identified (unlike newspapers) there is an opportunity to respond. If I was an owner of GV I would be in your face defending myself but that has not happened. Recently I saw an email form a high up Triple Diamond and he had in the email "Learn how to have 29,000 reps in your downline in 9 weeks", or something like that. He's been in it for perhaps a year and has maybe a few thousand, or had a few thousand. How you you pitch this when you don't do it yourself? Just one of many things from GV that has raised 100 red flags.
Troy that is Great, Please keep fighting the Good fight, I repsect the fact that you put out the facts, To be honest I can tell you they are wishing they never sent that letter. You did not give us any slack at AKW when we had that website up, and it was fair it looked like trash. Further You have done the same with multiple companies. I can tell you that The Info that you posted on GLOBAL VERGE is true, If they are not a scam why cant commissions be paid on time? why is it the 73% of the commission comes from memberships. Ooops , yeah I said it 73% of their commission comes from memberships!. Further, They cant get phones on they dont answer support tickets and when commissions come up, guess what, ted comes out with a call that says that we need another 60 days to process the DATA, are you kidding me? Troy you just called it like it is, If it wasnt a scam, why wont Ted or Mark talk to the press, not just troy but the press period. Huh I wonder why? So thank you troy for calling it like it is. And I will say it. Until GLOBAL VERGE can come to the table with real leadership, A 5yr plan (wow cant believe they dont have one) , and Fulfillment, Your a SCAM! plain and simple if any other company on this planet took in money for phones, verizon, sprint, whoever, and also an activation fee and plans, and the customer was still waiting after 60 days to get the product, How many of those companies would still be in business? NONE! and that is what is happening here GLOBAL VERGE is Bleeding Reps faster than they can count. Because people call it like they see it, and with the facts presented. Global Verge is A SCAM.
Keep it up Troy. Freedom of speech is our number one right!
Chris in response to your above comment…
"Ted comes out with a call that says that we need another 60 days to process the DATA,"
Anyone here ever work in sales? Ever have a huge chargeback eat your commission? I have, it sucks. In fact I would rather wait until the return and refund period is past until I get paid, so I don't have a chargeback.
The 60 day commission turn around time is for the Global Talk Smart service. Yes I know we are talking cell phone service here and not the other products and services that Global Verge offers and delivers daily. However lets not confuse and blend the issues.
Global TalkSmart (GTS) offers a 30 day money back guarantee to all new customers. Anytime during that time a customer may cancel their service and receive a full refund. By paying out the commission 30 days after the 30 day cancellation period, there is no risk of e-associates owing huge chargebacks. The commissions on GTS are big (Bigger than GM1 and Panther Mobile). I really would not want to see one of my new e-associates having to pay back their first commission check because a customer changed their mind and cancelled.
So that 60 day period has nothing to do with the cell phone service. Another case of people using partial info to propogate their propoganda.
On side note Chris, what happened to your AKW website. It looks like it was shut down?
Paul,
You nailed that one on the head. Been down the chargeback road, and you are right it sucks. However, does this work when it's a pre-paid service? I thought Pre-paid was like buying food at a restaurant, you can't chargeback? Or are they holding ALL commissions to see if folks charge back the membership fees?
On the Global Talk Smart VoIP service they have a 30 day money back guarantee for all new users. It is because of this policy of the GTS provider, that commissions are not paid for 60 days. I will have to listen to last Thursday's call again to confirm, but if memory serves me correctly, it was the GTS commissions that was being held back 60 days and not all commissions. That was brought up on a GTS training webinar two weeks ago as well. That says a lot about the level of confidence they have in the quality of the GTS service to offer a 30 day money back guarantee.
As for the cell phone service, I don't know. Prior to his exodus, I doubt Chris would have offered or authorized a money back guarantee. I don't believe Panther Mobile or in all fairness, any other wireless carrier offers a satisfaction guarantee.
Paul,
That makes since. I can understand waiting to pay commissions. I've never heard of telecommunication companies offering money back on services. Lord knows most would have gone belly up.
um i just checked and http://www.activationkingwireless.com is still exposing that scam know as global verge See mark cant call in and say he is me here and ask to cancel my account as he did with the old hoster, this company calls me before any changes are made, Nice try, See when you mess with the bull you get the horns, So ill be posting our lawsuit, Teds criminal record, Marks, The whole nine because one, I can, and Two its the right thing to do, That said, It sounds like your making an excuse, And I like the fact that you are saying it is only GTS, Unfortunately customers can get a magic jack for a a tenth of your GTS costs and Its mobile. So as for commissions Ted did not Say whether that was GTS or commissions period, Further has anyone got a commission from GV for mobile, I have so many that have made the switch to panther because they can actually make the commissions that were promised. So paul I appreciate the Comment, But the facts still remain that there is WAY TO MUCH MONEY un accounted, for , And obviously you are one of the leaders there, So you will do what you need to do to protect your paycheck, But what about the people under you who have still not got their phone or service? Or the Dad in San Diego that I talked to that gives his money from food to be apart of this company and still no service to sell and no commissions paid, NO MATTER WHAT, these are the people that mark and Ted are hurting, And that is the person that is paying your Commissions. Not the products, I have been in the office and seen how it is, Now paul what will you do when it comes out that the leaders are making money off the little guy with them not being able to sell that product, When will you leaders demand Disclosure? or will you continue to blindly follow, Cause when the hammer comes down dont think they will stop at mark or ted, they will go after the leaders that stood buy and profited from this. But hey what do I know, I dont scam my people and I GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO SELL WIRELESS NOW, Ask mark where it is at, or better yet call simple mobile the company itself, and ask them if they consider Global Mobile 1 and Global Verge a scam, Guess what they will say? quote We know about them and we consider what they are doing fraud, Dont take my word for it ask for yourself.
Chris Greco
Chris,
Why are all of these aliases of yours being directed to your personal sites.
These are not rotator or tracking sites. They go directly to your 1300 id.
Anyone who clicks on signup button on these sites is enrolled under you.
What a snake in the grass you are to not only post customer information on your
site, but now to use Troy and try to gain from this mess. How much lower can you get?
GripitAndRipit,
Several folks have talked about this today. I will be interested in Chris's response. But just because several replecated sites have one ID 1300 dies not mean this folks are going to Chris or that Chris is benefiting outside of whatever his affiliation is with Panther. Randy Jeffers of WOW Mobile has his ID on a site, yet all the orphans who come in on his personal ID go to someone in the downline.
Maybe this is the same. Seem like a lot of folks are jumping to conclusions before Chris has a chance to respond.
But, I will be interested in the answer.
Hello I am not trying to Gain from anything for your info I have paid 12 membership fees for people to get into this company, Yes I have the paypal I sent these former Burned E associates and You can talk to them directly troy, Further, the 1300 id was issued by Panther So that it could be tracked how many people came in off Unlimited Wizard Calls, and people we have signed up are of course using the site that is listed on the call, these people are not going under me in fact I have had to send kevin emails when people have requested to be moved from their place in the matrix which is Random, and further be put under their sponsor, Oh and yes I have those emails as well. So Troy I can send you those. Further let me say this, You guys who are still with GV, No matter what you say and how you defend them, One they will continue to delay you, continue to be banned by companies like simple mobile, Page Plus, Verizon, Sprint, Where will they go then? I pose to you that question, What will you do when you finally realize you have been duped, It will be a sad day for the distributors who were lead on by their leaders. So I say its your fault leaders in the field at GV for this mess, because you continue to let this happen. So I find your pot shots humorous, and entertaining, But they are simply that pot shots, Look When you can come with facts as we have Please bring them on, Thats what this is about, I still have heard no response for the Trouble tickets we posted, Nor have We heard from Ted about us calling them out on Phones that have still not been delivered, Can you hear that….. Crickets…….. But over where I do business I hear the UPS truck and Fed ex leaving daily. So Im not saying COME HERE COME HERE, Do your research, Whether its WOW, GI connect, FDI, Televerus, Or Panther Mobile, Research, see who has the Most Products, The Best commissions, And who is actually growing and can produce, but also investigate its leaders where they come from, and how they can sell the products they sell.
I can tell you that the leaders at GV are convicted felons and that says alot about a company.
While the other companies executives I mentioned are not,
Thanks for your participation do your research
So your telling us that you had no prior knowledge of the "leaders" at GV being "convicted" felons, before becoming their partner?
You couldn't have said it better. That says alot about a company. ROFLOL!!!
Hey Troy and Chris!
Thanks for everything! You know somethings really wrong when GV comes out this past week and changes their focus to travel and travel incentive certificates. Moreover, now they're offering refunds for phones and equipment purchased and/or they will do what they can …yeah right! Then on top of all of that …they're now saying another 4 to 6 weeks which we figure and guestimate probably another 3 to 4 months of them trying their best to hang on and keep others hanging on with them!
YAY for Aaron Tipen's song "Stand for Something or Fall For Anything" and …YAY for ALL our rights as individuals – this HAS TO STOP before it comes thru the door again! Thank You Troy and Chris for bringing TOTAL TRUTHS to light and for being here for the little guys as well as the big ones too…you two gentleman are AWESOME! Keep UP the good fight!
Partners
Troy. Great video as always. Thank you again for your support.
Thank you for this video! I have been a GV Rep since the days of ZERO 1. I have been extremely patient with this company. I have spent several days, drove several thousand miles, and a nice chunk in promoting this company. The 39.99 they charge per month is nothing compared to the time and effort I have put into trying to build my GV business. I ordered a SIM almost 3 months ago, I just received it this past Friday 1/29. After being told it was an invalid Sim on the activation website, I sent in a support ticket. I didn't hear anything back, so I sent in another on Sun 1/31. I have tired calling GV directly and no one answers. This company is obviously a SCAM. My only recourse is to the word out to as many people as possible. I do agree with Troy, that Chris Greco has been open and upfront from the start of things. It is no wonder that he is so infuriated by the lack of professionalism demonstrated by Global Verge. I am so ashamed to have been involved with such a company, I put my word and my name on this company. I believed promise after promise, ignoring my gut. Greed is a very dangerous thing. I wanted to believe, so in the end I am to blame as well. CC a copy of this to,
CROCKER & CROCKER!
Hey GV Rep. I left GV after two months. Dec and Jan. Needed to activate some phones and didn't see it happening with GV. My BS detector was going off big time. Called my handfull of e associates and told them what I felt, and why I felt GV was bogus. I would probably still be hoping and building if it were not for another legit company. check my site http://mobilephoneguys.net thanks and good luck in pursuing your dreams
Awesome post and job, Troy. I am so glad that we have people like you doing the work you do.
Keep it up no matter what.
Lou Abbott
Founder
http://www.MLM-theWholeTruth.com
…for people who want to know the whole truth about the M.L.M industry
804-308-3228
Awesome post and job, Troy. I am so glad that we have people like you doing the work you do.
Lou Abbott
Founder
http://www.MLM-theWholeTruth.com
…for people who want to know the whole truth about the M.L.M industry
Lou,
You are a hero of mine. Thank you for stopping by, this means a lot.
Folks, Lou has an assume blog with more data than you can shake a stick at.
Troy,
Doing some looking at the comments being posted. Do you realize that Chris Greco has at least 10 different id's for posting comments on your site. Some of these started from your post of GV losing their provider and they continue, even today.
Some go to UnlimitedWizard and some to his Panther site. These are not rotator or tracking sites.
They are specifically to signup under his 1300 id. Concerned MLMer was correct.
Now I really wonder how much of his story is true. Does GV owe him, does he owe GV, or has the real story yet to be revealed?
GripItAndRipIt,
The comments all come from different IP Addresses. Yes they go to a website with Chris's name on it. Since I have no clue in the business model Panther uses, I have no clue if these roll to others or what.
We are watching the IP addresses, and Chris has been good to respond to all critic's questions.
Thanks Troy, Again people keep bringing it, I mean what now I have ten I.D.s wow what will you koolaide drinkers think of next. Again the panthermobile.net was set up to track how many people were coming into the company from my word and calls, thats it I get no benefit from that, period. You can contact panther directly, We are a transparent company meaning all of our records can be seen the matrix can be viewed by members, not just their line, etc, and further we are doing this the right way and not scaming our team members. We are letting our members sell service now, Global Verge, Um they said what another Month now, wow, was a week, now a month, Sounds like May all over again, So again do your research. We are moving forward to actually provide the E associates with the opportunity to sell that service now and actually get paid commissions. Not promised on date only to be pushed back another month.
Chris Greco
http://www.panthermobile.net
Chris,
Thanks, I knew there was an answer, but since I am not a part of the company I figured one of you guys should answer.
Personally, I'm no longer associated with GV or any other company, at the moment. I couldn't agree with you more concerning GV's practices. It is a shame that more people do not take action and file a complaint with Mo. Attorney General. Troy has even provided a link.
But, I do still follow what is going on with all of these wireless mlm's. And regardless of what occurred between you and GV, you had absolutely NO RIGHT to display member information on your website for all to see. The members did absolutely nothing to deserve this kind of retaliation from you. As for Panther Mobile, I'm sure alot of people have learned the hard way not to just dive into a company so quickly.
I see you have disputed the ID's going to your Panther site, but no mention of those that go to unlimited wizard.
GripitAndRipit,
You say: none of the GV members should have been posted on Chris's site – CHRIS WAS in fact doing this ONLY to show how many people were being ripped off and NOT as a "personal" affront! Fact is: There's a NEED to KNOW and a WANT to KNOW involved here coming from each and EVERY person that WAS or STILL IS involved with GV!
GV has knowingly BEEN ripping people off since eVerge and now this too? Not to mention the very latest with the GV Global Group Founders and their own shenanigans attempting to start a brand new RIP OFF all over again using the hard earned and spent monies of those who got ripped off BIG TIME in the first place! These people have NO SCRUPLES and NO MORALS to sit idly by and watch this take place and then to RECreate the situation all OVER again!!
There IS a RIGHT …AND… a WRONG here. People NEED TO VENT and people NEED to LET OTHERS KNOW when something like this tragedy of DINASAURIC porportions is occuring with ANY one business! WE PERSONALLY THANK CHRIS and TROY for what they're doing to insure people DON'T continue to get RIPPED OFF!
No problem I said we would be transparent, I meant it.
Troy something I found Funny, Ever since we got our agreements with rogers, fido in canada, and Virgin in south africa, and telstra in australia, now global mobile has the link that says coming soon, lol this is funny, they must really see the numbers of people we have pulled from them, Further that 99.99 voip was on the site before i even got there, Oh wait a minute so was the exclusive plans for canada south africa, and australia, WOW, well just wanted to say we said we were bringing it and WE DID, in less than 10 days, we are sending sims for people in those countries to test the products now,'
Chris Greco
Panthermobile.net
We actually produce. And I will post the report on the beta test good or bad, here, Thats what a transparent company does, post the good with the bad,
ROFLOL…
I was reading through comments last night, and it is funny that when you stepped up and decided to team up with Panther, the comments attacking your credibility truly ran high.
As you have said, we dug deep looking at you, the company, your sites and even some personal info… We have dug deep into Kevin and Harry to see what is under the rocks and in the closets… If I had to put you guys and the GV guys in a line up and run people through to see which ones have been scammed by who… I believe people would not know who Harry and Kevin are, some would point at you because of GV, and the rest would point at Ted and Mark because of all the failed companies Mark has launched just to take peoples money, then closed them down.
He has learned to manipulate a weakness in some people, just like the televangelists of the 1980s
AMEN
I am confused here…?__But doesn't Rogers own Fido? __I don't understand how 2 agreements would be needed.__Wouldn't it make more sense to run with Rogers & Telus, or Rogers & Bell or even Bell & Telus or better yet … all 3__Could you provide further details about a Canadian launch … hopefully something better than … "it shouldn't be too long now.." or "let us smooth out the wrinkles so we can cookie cutter our launches…" would be sufficient____Thank you
Chris Greco,
I have called numerous time to Panther mobile only to get a message stating 'mailbox full'..therefore, I sent numerous emails and never got a response. I have a question: If I choose to sell as an independent agent for Panther Mobile and introduce the service to others as well; can we expect the exact same scenario distributors experienced with GV customer service?? So far this is what I have experience for 2 weeks now..not one response.
Adrian,
I had to laugh reading this comment. I have called every public number listed as Panther mobile and a couple of private numbers and they have been answered live, all but once. The one time when I could not get a live person, I received a call back within 30 minutes.
If you will send me the numbers you called and the unanswered emails (TroyDooly@MLMHelpDesk.com) I will gladly follow up on this issue. If I don't get a solid answer I will gladly publish a new post showing your frustration, and asking the important question you ask here.
Hi Troy,
I have watched your videos and read your commentaries on G.V., and also on Randy Jeffers and Liberty International. I truly appreciate your candor, and the way in which you seem to be so concerned with getting to the truth of the matter. I appreciated the way in which you made a correction when it came to Randy Jeffers. I believe that it is both important and very necessary for those of us who are uneducated in the ways and wiles of many MLM companies, as well as start ups, to have an unbiased investigative voice which speaks on our behalf. I have been maintaining a wait and see attitude toward G.V., and have not been wanting to jump to hasty conclusions regarding either side of this war. The bottom line in any sales scenario is in the fulfillment. I am also very disappointed in the lack of fulfillment, and the lack of commitment on the part of G.V. toward it's reps…it's customers, it's back bone. Out of sheer frustration, I ordered a phone from WOW mobile, and received it in 2 weeks, including weekends. It works great, and does everything that WOW Mobile claims it will do.
I have to say that all of the talk in world holds no water, much like a bucket full of buckshot holes.
I just want to put in a good word for Liberty, and to say thanks for the wake up calls from you.
Keep up the good fight brother.
Lee,
Thank you. I learned a long time ago, tell the truth, and admit when you are wrong. Our goal is to provide the facts, and yes some opinion, but most of all give a big picture for folks to know what they are getting into.
Again thank you.
Living An Epic Adventure,
Troy
Adrian,
I have been with Panther Mobile for about a month, I have two phones activated through them and have personally talked to both owners and also to Chris Greco. The fact is that these two men have been working long and hard to bring everything to the table. Not promises the products but producing them. To answer your questions on "can we expect the exact same scenario distributors experienced with GV customer service?? ", the answer is NO!! If you want some answers I would be happy to talk to you, you can contact me thru this website (http://alturl.com5ght
troy on the new call the gm1 site has totally went down, and ted quickly said woah woah, we only took it down to add new service, LOL This is funny, they havent allowed anyone to sell the service, I think that is funny, and ted said that the E associates, cant handle the fulfillment, and they admit the rest of the phones are shipped this week, SEVERAL HUNDRED PHONES HAVENT BEEN SHIPPED, WOW, WOW, I thought they were all caught, Several Warehouses? LOL LOL, they ship everything (when they ship) from their office, This is laughable, This says they are really scared, Further, Simple Officially shut GV down from activating so what do they do now, wow, now they said that they were 30 to 60 days out WOW!!!!! this is crazy! Well as I said what GV could and still hasnt done, We have got it done in a week!
Oh they had shipping issues. wow listen to the call more excuses wow
troy on the new call the gm1 site has totally went down, and ted quickly said woah woah, we only took it down to add new service, LOL This is funny, they havent allowed anyone to sell the service, I think that is funny, and ted said that the E associates, cant handle the fulfillment, and they admit the rest of the phones are shipped this week, SEVERAL HUNDRED PHONES HAVENT BEEN SHIPPED, WOW, WOW, I thought they were all caught, Several Warehouses? LOL LOL, they ship everything (when they ship) from their office, This is laughable, This says they are really scared, Further, Simple Officially shut GV down from activating so what do they do now, wow, now they said that they were 30 to 60 days out WOW!!!!! this is crazy! Well as I said what GV could and still hasnt done, We have got it done in a week!
troy they are running for the hills and telling the field that they are working on south africa and australia, thats funny, maybe they are worried,
or is it because they have had 2137 people this week cancel autoships? Hmmmmm I wonder, anyway they said they have to wait till they get it down to a science. Well folks you will b e waiting for years, Well just thought that call was laughable, Everyone know 90% of Gv associates, are there for the wireless service, nothing else not water machines, non of that, So facts are facts I see that ship is sinking and about to have water spill over the transom, So its a Sad state of affairs at GV.
Just wanted to keep you up to date please listen for yourselves.
Chris Greco
Buying time wont save them.
I want to thank you for the above mentioned compliment Chris. The one where you felt I was a leader with GV. Not yet. But I am a so called kool-aid drinker trying to build a business. But it is nice to see that an opponent recognizes potential and I appreciate it.
I also am very happy to see that your new AKW website does not violate anyone's privacy this time. I am kind of bewildered by those actions of yours. I mean someone who is supposed to have a Masters Degree in Communications would know better.
The other thing I am confused about. You trashed Raymond on this forum. Were you not the one who originally hired or partnered this convicted felon? What does that say about you?
Finally, it is my understanding that Global Verge brought you and your company in to provision phones. If that is the case it is pretty obvious to me that you failed miserably to meet demand.
In my opinion Chris, you are using Troy's forum to push your private agenda, promote your service, and make more money in the process. I don't have a problem with promotion, and making money, but I do hope that Troy is being compensated for the PR this has given you.
Paul,
Dog gone always trying to ruffle the feathers.
Yep.
Truth be known Troy I failed miserable in the corporate world as I never had a problem telling the emperor he was naked. But I slept soundly at night knowing that my values were never compromised.
By the way Chris, it wasn't Mark calling your former host pretending to be you that got you shut down. It was a complaint sent to your host by an individual whose privacy was compromsed that got you shut down. They forwarded the email from your host to me, thanking them for letting them know what you did.
They also advised that before doing so, they made screen shots. They then fired off complaints to the FCC, FTC, BBB, and their local state attorney.
So don't try to spin this as you being victimized by GV. It wasn't. It was an E-Associate who refused to be unwillingly dragged into this dispute by you. It was your actions alone that created that.
can you explain why our hosting company said they were contacted by a mark p. on my behalf which asked to shut down the site.. lol please guy there is no way you can make GV out to be the good guy here, No matter what. They are what they are, A SCAM
Nice try Chris.
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Paul,
I do find this interesting. Seems if the hosting service turned off the site without verifying the info you sent them first, you and the hosting company might stand liable for potential financial losses which may have occured while the site was down.
Just a thought my friend
It was sent to me by one of the people whose personal information was posted on Chris's site. They sent the complaint to the host. The host investigated and removed it. It was pretty obvious to anyone that went to AKW's website that Chris violated people's privacy, and I am glad this individual took action to get it shut down.
I also believe this individual took screen shots of the website, and forwarded complaints to the FCC, FTC, BBB and their local state attorney's office for review.
So Chris to requote your comment…
"our hosting company said they were contacted by a mark p. on my behalf which asked to shut down the site.. lol please guy there is no way you can make GV out to be the good guy here, No matter what. They are what they are, A SCAM"
I caught you in a lie. I wonder how many other lies you have regurgitated through all this.
Paul,
Excellent defense. However it raises a couple of questions.
1. Do you have proof this distributor did not call Mark, and that Mark did not call and talk to the host, and that was the catalyst which caused the hosting company to shut down the site, prior to their response to the distributor? Maybe you can get the headers from the original email to prove your point?
2. Can you please produce the original documentation (e-mail) including headers so we can validate your claim "you caught Chris in a lie"?
So far all I am seeing is two very passionate men providing just enough evidence to cause people to think, ponder and wonder what the truth really is.
Exactly Troy, And Paul Just so you know, Send me your contact info so we can go after you for those financial loses we incurred.
And also Just so you know, If your company is SO REPUTABLE, Why are they changing the name of the company AGAIN.
Hi Troy,
For what it's worth, I think GV is just making a bunch of noise on this one. If they move forward with a legal action it's going to mean airing their dirty laundry in open court and I seriously doubt they want to do that.
Keep your chin up my friend!
Micah
Micah,
Thank buddy. Listen we need to catch up. My week has been slammed, I'll give you a buzz tomorrow… If I come up for air.
Paul let me say one, yes I acknowledged my mistake posting the information, Two I can admit when I am wrong unlike Mark or Ted, Further Raymonds info came out when the background check came back from verizon on the MVNO they had requested I walk them in for, And also Global Verge Brought my company in to buy Air Time not provision phones, If that were the case we would have shipped everything and activated everything, But Ill say it again, They refused to Let AKW do activations they wanted all the control and they have to take all the responsibilty, That would be like you saying its Nextels fault that Boosts text messaging wasnt workikng, I was providing them the contracts and tools, they could use my agreements, etc, And my company was compensated, Problem is when their merchant account was froze we had to foot the bill for them and are now out alot of money because they couldnt pay their bill, Just like they couldnt pay their bill with the MANDI program and speechphone walked away, Just like The water company that walked away, these companies did not just leave for the hell of it, they left because of the constant crap they were fed. Now do i have an agenda, You bet your A** I do, Its to get every E-associate that has been promised this mobile product for over a year now, to be able to sell the product NOW!, not in the next 30 to 60 days, that is laughable, did you hear the call? Mark telling the people in south africa they will have service but the program here needed to be down to a science, That is Laughable. So let me translate that, Global Verge is 3 to 4 years away from doing business in SA, but keep those membership fees coming in. That folks is what you call stealing!, they are taking off the backs of people who work hard for the money and giving them nothing in return, AND YES YOU CAN SAY YOU HAVE ALL THESE OTHER PRODUCTS, But the facts are the following, Water Machines, And all the other faulty crap thats sold, Does not provide you with a residual income, But wireless does, the facts remain 90% of people in GV are there for wireless, and numbers are numbers, People are switching everyday, Because We produce, and we get things Done, period.
If the leaders threw Mark and Ted out You might have a small chance, but I doubt it,
Chris Greco
Chris,
This is interesting. I wondered why Speech Phone teamed up with FDI after cutting a deal with Global Verge.
Chris, you disputed the multiple ID's from this site going to Panther, but I haven't seen a comment on the other ID's going to unlimited wizard.
Oh and Paul one other thing when have you been able to talk to Ted or Mark, See I have open calls at panther where I actually listen to the field. Hmmmm. maybe they could learn from that, Cause people want someone that listens. That would be us, They also want someone that produces that would be Us.
So far Chris we have you breaking a non disclosure and confidentiality agreement, violating the privacy of e-associates by posting their personal information on your website, and then lieing to all of us about GV shutting down your hosting account when the above email clearly shows it was a complaint to the host that got it shut down.
What we have here folks is a kettle calling the pot black.
Paul,
Just to make sure I fully understand a couple of things you have written. I am from the deep south… and shorter than you are
1. You make a factual statement on Chris breaking a "non-disclosure and confidentiality agreement" Are you saying you have proof, Chris broke these agreements while they were enforced and had not been broken by another party fist voiding the conext of the agrement prior to Chris coming forward in his public statements?
If so can you please send those to us, so we can write a current articles making public these facts.
2. I did see the email you posted, but I did not see the headers from the email showing the route of the email from origination to the end user. If that is in your poseesion can you please post that to prove this is truly an email coming from the hosting company and when it was generated?
Otherwise it seems like a former GV Strategic Partner on one side being debated by a current GV member on the other, which cancels out each side, since we would expect a bias stance from each side of the debate.
Troy as I mentioned to you in an email, “When you argue with a fool, you end up with two fools”.
And yes, I agree with you, there is a biased stance on each side, and I am sure somewhere in the middle there is the truth.
I revealed the answer to your first question in the email I sent you. I am sure you will agree that the source I had is indeed reliable, as it is a source you trust. However, after all my rants about violation of privacy, I am sure you can understand why, it is not being revealed here.
To answer question number two…
after all my rants about violation of privacy, I am sure you can understand why, it is not being revealed here.
.-= Paul Douglas´s last blog ..Warning!!! Global Verge Is A Scam! =-.
I was a GV e-associate, # 188984 to be exact. Got in back in May or June of last year. My partner Cindy and I stuck with them until last month when we got tired of giving our downline the same ol' story… "wait just a little bit longer, it's almost here".
Then we got a chance to talk to Chris and he did whatever it took to get Cindy's phone working. Even with all his calls and all his other business activities he needed to take care of, he worked with her until midnight his time to get it done. And then he did something that I can't say on here but it does give credibility to his character.
For those of you still with GV, I wish you luck.
From my experience so far, Chris has shown more integrity than Mark and Ted.
As a e-associate I did receive a phone after 2 months of waiting, but when I went to activate it, they in up charging me the $79.00 plan twice and $14.99 for the activation fee. After numerous phone calls and support tickets I have yet heard back from GV, I have cancel my autoship.
I am looking for someone in NW Florida or Panhandle of Florida that has join up with Panther Mobile, you can contact me @ dfselectric@comcast.net.
Yes Troy, I live about an hour to the east of you.
Thanks,
David
I too am speaking up for chris, It seems that now that my former comrade e associates are mift at chris because now they have No Cell service to sell and the site is down.
Well I did the smart thing and followed the smart money, I wont say what company but you can figure it out, I had my site in minutes and I have sold three phones and taken 14 payments, Now how come this company can do it and was implemented in two weeks but global verge has been waiting a year?
There is no excuse, I finally realized I was wasting my 99.00 every month for nothing, now I pay half that and actually can sell the service. So look at your own company and its leaders Mark and Ted, Enough Said, So dont throw stones in a glass house.
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David we will gladly take you on, and We will have your replicated site up in minutes and you can sell wireless now, not in 30 days, not in 60 days, but NOW, so I look forward to working with you and helping you personally build your down line, Yeah I said it, I go out and personally help people build their business I am not above helping associates in the field. When is the last time Mark or Ted helped build your Down line in GV e associates, aahh think about it….exactly, they havent. So David we will welcome you to the team. and help you grow in this business, and I will share all the knowledge I know.
Chris Greco
Troy Is there another company that gives the field 200 minutes they can give anyone on a verizon phone as a marketing tool? I just want to know so we can actually say we did that first, cause I have a feeling that other company thats sinking is going to do alot of following the leader. And let me know about those pics, Honest opinions, I am good for it, Its a new store that just opened
Chris,
I have yet, to find any company who offers FREE cell time for anyone, inside or outside of MLM, but I will continue to search.
Wowmobile gives you your 1st month. Refer 3 and your service will always be FREE. That is unlimited everything with no data caps.
How much do you have to pay to get your first month free?
If some of the Triple Diamond so-called leaders would get on a plane or in a car and go to the GV home office and demand answers, they could put an end to all of this in a hurry, one way or another. But they have nothing between their legs and have been morally and ethically neutered. So instead of determining credibility they stay home and recruit hard as ever. Shame on you!!! Troy, this is not a pretty post but I hope you place it.
"If some of the Triple Diamond so-called leaders would get on a plane or in a car and go to the GV home office and demand answers"
What home office ? Their home office is a PO Box !
Besides, now Global Verge, D/B/A Global Mobile One, has an Advisory Council, entirely made of Triple Zircon "leaders". The mind boggles how they will "advise" the real bosses.
But now, GV has this nifty brand-new Order Tracking System. They will know accurately everything they aren't delivering. Ain't that wonderful ?
Hmmmm…….Chris, why is it that Roland signed up under you, but doesn't use your Panther site in his signature link. This one actually goes to his affiliate site. Now why on earth would they give their own personal link? ____And we are still waiting for your response to multiple ID's from this site going to your unlimited wizard site. You disputed the multiple ID's going to your Panther site, but failed to mention anything about those going to unlimited wizard.
Just doing my research!
GripAndRipit, I used to be like you. I defended Global Verge because I kept believing in them. But when you send support tickets to GV and the replies come back with answers that doesn't even have anything to do with what I asked, and then you call and you get a looping message so you could never leave a message… eventually that wears you down and then I finally got my head out of my ass and said enough is enough. No communication, delays, hyped up talkshoe calls, and not even sure if they can stay in business in the next month.
And why do you ask "why on earth would they give their own personal link?" I have nothing to hide, I signed up under a sponsor so what's the big deal? Whether it's Chris or not, all I know is that I'm getting service and I'm going to build up my business.
If you want to talk to me, email me and I'll give you my phone number if you need proof I'm not Chris. Geez, maybe you need to get your head out of your ass.
ROFLOL………Roland, relax buddy. At no time was I defending GV!! Are you kidding me?
On the other hand, I have been seeking the truth ( not common these days ) as to what happened between Chris and GV.
If you will go back and read the posts on this subject as well as GV provider shutting them down,
then my comments will become clear. I was being sarcastic as to my comment on your personal link. I just wanted clarification from Chris on his actions and practices.
He has now answered my questions to my satisfaction.
I originally posted here last year to let Troy know that GV had over charged me and refused to
give a refund. Needless to say I'm no longer there. I'm looking for a home, and will do everything I can to make sure that I protect my family and my team.
Tomorrow is another day, and I plan to make the best of it!
My apologies.
It's just that I'm sick and tired of hearing from these people who are totally blinded by Mark and Ted's (and Jan and that other lady on the call) Bull****!! Unfortunately, I was that way too until I spoke to Chris.
Onward and upward.
The Wizard site so you know is only one site their isnt any relicated site, And when people were signing up with wizard, they hadnt got their sites done yet and further their was a field on wizard where people in order to sign up had to mention who refered them with their Wizard ID, does that answer your question, Thanks for doing your research. As For Panther those people who signed on panther.net its called spill over.
Thanks for your research.
Chris,
Thanks for sending the pictures of the store, I will do a post and get them live so folks can see you really do have stores.
Global Verge leaders, Ted, Mark, Ruth, and Jan have certainly branded their company with the public.
That brand screams,"Coming soon" and "We are excited"
Listened to corporate call from 2/2/10 and compared it to call from 2/2/09. Amazing how close in content they sounded. All you hear is "coming soon", and "we are excited".
Ted's very last statement on Tuesday's call, "next call should be pretty exciting"
My question to the leaders. When are you going to let the "e" associates be EXCITED?
Wayne Askew
I wish that Global Verge had been able to provide the e associates with real deliverables (cell phones), it could have been a "VERY EXCITING" venture…to date they have not. The last corporate call was just more of the same. Hype doesn't cut it! When I hear hype over and over…I get very cautious and skeptical. For those of you that put time and money to build a GV business…don't get discouraged or beat yourself up! It may be time to move on.
I wish you all the best of success!!!
Troy, the link to this blog entry (and only this one) fails in Safari, I have been forced to download Firefox to post this.
The error message I get with Safari:
Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
client sent HTTP/1.1 request without hostname (see RFC2616 section 14.23): /2010/02/02/mlm-help-desk-and-troy-dooly-officially-responds-to-global-verge-through-mlm-attorney-kevin-thompson/
_Arthur,
I'll look at the code on the page.
The same article was working fine yesterday, I cannot open it today with Safari.
Using Firefox right nowjust for this particular article. The other articles on this site open fine.
Clicking on the title, or on the comments field, or accessing it by its Google URL, all the same results.
I'm told that Chrome has no problem with the URL either. Only Safari.
The page now works OK with Safari.
I'm puzzled,
Did you see this on the mobile site:
The Global Mobile 1 website is under construction and being redone with a new site.
You can still Activate your SIM CARD and plan by clicking here.
You can Activate a CDMA Phone and plan by clicking here.
If you need to renew your current plan with Global Mobile1 please click here.
Thank You for Your Patience.
Another site. LMAO. Good lord, I have never seen more changes and excuses for why things are going wrong then at GV. What a joke.
I have no doubt that they'll be changing the name again.
And they renew only 3 plans, Basic ($39.99), Basic+SMS ($49.99) and Basic+SMS+50Mb
the UNLIMITED plans are just gone !
The activations are an easy 15-steps process.
In their most recent conference call, they seem to indicate that activations is a process to complex for them to handle, they'll start selling pre-activated, GM1-branded phones …
New models of Water Machines coming up, with fat commissions.
"Consultants are giving us phenomenal advice from a business standpoint !!"
_Arthur,
When we checked on these machines GV was charging folks about $400 more than the company sold them for. Will these be exclusive to GV or just the regular machines?
Who cares ? The associates are being promised "fat commissions", so they'll push teh water-making machines.
These machines reminds me of a dehumidizer in an office. I was tasked to dump the sludge once a week. Except that with Global Verge water gizmos, you're expected to *drink* the sludge <shudder>.
YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS S**T Today I got a text message on my so called Global Mobile 1 GSM cell phone. The message stated That it was time for me to pay my cell bill for the next month. Now there is nothing out of the ordinary about that except the text came from Simple Mobile and not Global Mobile 1. I then contacted Simple Mobile customer service and gave them my cell number only. Then to my surprise they pulled up my account information. They verified my name, address, cc info ect. So I dug a little deeper and asked how much was my bill. The CS rep stated my bill was $55 for unlimited talk, text, with 40 megs of data. But I was expecting them to say $79.95 with the talk, text and unlimited data that I subscribed to last month. The Simple Mobile rep stated that they only provide 40 megs of data no unlimited data pkg exists. And that would explain why I never got my data to work. I will be contacting Global Verge in the morning to get a full refund for last months service. I call it a flat out lie and a bait and switch. Global Verge has given me the worst business experience in my life.
Troy Moore,
Please keep us posted.
Also please tell the forum what simple mobile considers Global Verge and Global Mobile, Being you are an E associate, and are seeing the truth for yourself, Please email Cathy@mysimplemobile.com About this issue, if your sim card has been defaced or altered simple mobile will send you a replacement and get it active for you, they want them so that they can move a fraud case against them. Thanks.
Chris Greco
Troy I wanted to say that chris is real, He just got done opening my store here in south carolina, That was the store that he sent you pictures for. He came here and spent two days, I paid him not a dime troy, he opened my wizard store, and got me all set up and showed me and my wife how to do this business. Anyone can call me here at anytime. Chris brought up this page and I sure am learning alot about the MLM industry, thank you for your info, Please feel free if you are a panther agent you can come get help with your panther products at 1415 Hwy 501, Myrtle Beach, SC. 29577 and our number is 843-957-8535.
Thanks again chris, And this is a wizard store, but with the new company we gladly will help any panther people, thanks for the education troy
Troy,
Sorry to hear this. This makes me even more furious that GV is doing this.What scums they really are. I hope Troy that the AG will shut them down very soon.
http://www.mysimplemobile.com/Simple-Mobile-Terms…
15. Misuse of Service or Device. You agree not to misuse the Service or any Device, including: (a) reselling or rebilling our Service; (b) using the Service or Device to engage in unlawful activity, or engaging in conduct that adversely affects our customers, employees, business, or any other person(s), or that interferes with our operations, network, reputation, or ability to provide quality service;
Just a question, Now that It is going to take 30 to 60 days for GV to get a site up then who knows how long it will be before they open retail, Oh they lost the unlimited plans, Huh I guess what was reported was right troy, AKW did cut them off, And further what happened to simple mobile mark, Oh thats right you were Cut off. I love how everyone is excited at GV, are they excited that they are losing Associates everyday to a real company that actually provides the service that is promised. Cant wait to here the Call where they are Bummed out, But hey they would lie and say they were excited, So why they are getting their new site and 30 to 60 days will turn into 120 days and they will still be excited. I feel bad for the people who have paid the 79.99 for the unlimited service last week? where is the refund GV, huh bet the e associates wont see that either.
Well as I said while everyone is waiting for their ability to sell at GV, you can sell Not only at Panther but At Wow, Yes I said it, Have to be fair, and their is more than one option, Of course I think ours is better, But just know you dont have to stay their and take it any longer. Make the right choice for yourself and Start selling now, otherwise everyone will have passed you up in Six months and they still have nothing you would be far behind.
Think about it, if they had it, you would have it, they just cant do it right. Nor will they ever.
Chris Greco
This is from Ted Robbins, Another Promise not Kept.
6. International VOIP – We have VOIP Canada up on our Global Talk Smart sites. The VOIP plan is great at $32.99 for international calling to over 30+ countries. However, we have discovered that the 800 number that is currently on the site does not work from Canada and also that the postal code section only allowed for a 5 digit field. Both of these items will be fixed today and we apologize for the inconvenience these discrepancies have caused.
For South Africa and Australia we have mapped out the plans and costs and we will be finalizing these this week in the hopes of getting out before year’s end.
7. International Global Mobile1 – We are in the process of reviewing final agreements for mobile in Canada. Once this has been done we will set up replicated sites for our Canadian e-Associates to sell the Global Mobile1 service. We are very close. Australia is our next mobile focus point and we are in the process of developing agreements there.
We have been concentrating on getting all the bugs worked out in the US so that we can feel confident in our international roll out.
As always thank you for your patience and understanding as we move through these very exciting times.
Sincerely,
Ted Robbins, President
Global Verge
Well we know they have no cellular service, HMMM, wooops my bad, and also definetley have nothing on the table nor will they for years for Canada, South Africa, Or Australia, So everyone remeber that call Tuesday? Now 30 days from now when the e associates cant sell the wireless service what then, Give them another 30 days, Enough is Enough, I am announcing something VERY VERY VERY BIG, And when I do this It could sink that ship as E associates will have no risk and can see for themselves. This isnt as big as what WOW announced, 100k distributors, Well GV doesnt have that, But I will Have something out there FOR GV E ASSOCIATES, TO MAKE A WISE DECISION, and it will be the only time I do this, It will cost me potentially alot of money, But these distributors have been burned, and this should settle the facts once and for all who is trying to help the e associates.
Big announcement coming, I promise. I may have it on the call later today at 2:30 p.m.
And yes We work late, actually work late Ted and Mark its 1:47am here, and were building our company for these associates. Dont be surprised to see some big names Jump ship.
I have been watching the GV fiasco for the last couple weeks after – unfortunately – becoming an associate. Thank goodness I never ordered service. I was part of LEC in the early 90s and still believe there's a lot of money to be made WITH THE RIGHT COMPANY!! Who on this blog is willing to step up, prove who they are, prove the money to be made and prove the service and pay offered is for real? I have about 60 people to bring to the table. Thank God I took GV only to 3 or 4 of them. Who has the truth??
we do period larry this is chris http://www.panthermobile.net
Larry. Felt your pain. Been there and found what, for me is right, with a fantastic company. Decide for yourself after I provide you with info. Feel free to contact me through email with request and I will give you my phone #. Look forward to helping you decide what is right for you! smartlywireless@gmail.com
Under the circumstances, your offer is very generous and global verge is likely done! As you know selling cell phones is simple or easy, the field rep has to know what they're doing…GV University doesn't cut it. If you can provide the reps with the knowledge base, Global Verge is really done!
oops! "simple or easy" should read..not simple or easy
"IT NEVER SAFE TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE WITH EYES OF FEAR."
Wuaoo I'm so excited from my stand point , sorry that was the only lines that I could remember on those old days when I was on the concentration camp of those fathead comunist,moneysuckers call leaders ,that all they think is how to steal peoples money 2 Timothy 3:2-5,
I REFUSE TO LEFT TO BELIEVE ON NETWORKMARKETING(I believe theres still good companies out there)I REFUSE TO LEFT TO BELIEVE ON LEADERSHIP (I believe theres still good leaders on this industries)I REFUSE TO LEFT TO BELIEVE ON MY DREAMS (I believe they belong to me and not body can't take it away from me)I REFUSE TO LEFT TO BELIEVE ON PROSPERITY (Because God say 1 Timothy 5:18 “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.)I REFUSE TO LEFT TO BELIEVE ON GOD (Because is not His foul that I been taking bad choices Psalm 92:5-8) Thanks Chris and Troy atte Saul- GLOBAL VISION TEAM
"IT NEVER SAFE TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE WITH EYES OF FEAR." part 2: this blog was very help full to understand about this company I was so blind if I did found this blog God knows where I will take my people most of them they been since the Zerooooo 1 5g big lie and the worst thing is that several of them didn't have a job and they used their savings to keep the autoship and their expenses thinking that very soon they will make some money 60% it was hispanics and they want to make international calls.Chris thoese cell phones work greate all a took was 3 hrs done 200 free minutes good signal,they happy and they still believing on their dreams ,sorry folks if I make you bored with all this ,but some how I had to let off my steam , before I killed my Dreams ,
and before I joined GV. I was with new company that was doing some thing that no body is been doing and finally phase beta is finish and they lunching globally with this new tegnology to make FREE international CALLS FROM YOUR 3G CELLPHONE,ATA OR EVEN FROM YOU COMPUTER TO ANY 3G CELLPHONE IN OUR NETWORKAND THE MOST ECSIDED PART IS THAT YOU MAKE MONEY JUST BY GIVING FREE WEBPHONES AND TREE LANGUAGES SPANISH,ENGLISH,PORTUGES AND VERY SOON CHINESE AND JAPANESE AND ALSO A NEW TEGNOLOGY FOR ADDVERTISING CHEAPER THAN GOOGLE WITH Odyssey user Geographical Location Technology, called GeoLocation Finder™, to know where you are in the world at any time,you can built two business of the same time or find a good lead around the globe wauu CHRIS I BELIEVE YOU CAN JOIN FORCES WITH THIS GUYS TO USE YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND THEIR UNIQUE VOIP TEGNOLOGY TO MAKE CHEAP INTERNATIONAL CALLS FROM YOUR CELLPHONE
PART 4:
AND LIKE I SAID I'M %100 PANTHER FAN FROM NOW ON ,I GOT SOME CONNECTIONS IN THE CELLPHONE COMPANIES CHRIS IN MEXICO TO TRY TO MAKE A ROAMING AGREEMENTS WITH YOU COMPANY ,TAKE MY WORD FOR IT I WILL TRY TO BRING ALL MY TEAM TO THIS ONE ,HELP ME WITH THE CONFERENCE NEXT WEEK .TROY LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP YOU TO STOP THIS MADNESS FOREVER WE HAVE TRANSACTIONS ON OUR BANK STAMENTS WHERE WE PAID ACTIVATIONS,SIM CARDSPHONE AND UNTIL NOW NOT ANSWER JUST CRICKETS SOUNDS."We cannot do everything at once but we can do something at once."
atte Saul- GLOBAL VISION TEAM GOD BLESS YOU TROY AND ALL THOESE LIKE YOU ON THE FIELD OF THE MLM BUSINESS WE ARE ALL BROTHER OF THE SAME PATH.
Mable Sable / Troy you claim that you check out the info that is posted on your blog— however,there is an email posted , allegedly from Cathy at simple mobile fraud dept. this instructs anyone who has received an altered sim card from GV that appears to be a simple mobile sim card to photograph same ,an email to cathy @mysimplemobile.com., and or call the 800 # listed. Several people
have contacted a Cathy who is in the fraud dept. of simplemobile and she said she has never sent an email to MLMHELPDESK ,and never heard of you. Troy, do you think Chris Greco could be jerking your chain and fabricating another false email. By the by, we recommended she call you to find out why this fraudulent email was posted on YOUR blog. better yet, maybe you should call her!!!!! { her number is on your blog}
Mable,
Great question. And it deserves an answer and some clarity.
1. Yes we do review every comment which comes through the door. In the case of "My Simple Mobile" The info was correct within the content of the post. The email was real, not a blind forward. The website did go to Simple Mobile and there is a Cathy who works in the Fraud Department.
2. Had you taken time to look, before you commented on this issue, you would have seen that I have talked to Cathy at Simple Mobile. Make me wonder if you put the post up, since you are bringing it up so quick and pointing finger at Chris. Just a thought.
3. There was no fraudulent email… This again is a little strange on your part. It was just a comment posted on the site. Cathy was able to take a snap shot of the comment after I directed her to it, then she explained some more details about Simple Mobile and I told her we would document and remove the comment so she could get back to her job, instead of having to deal with this issue. Agian, had you read our post you would have known this.
4. No I do not think Chris place the comment on the blog. Someone put it up. We do have the IP Address and will release that information under the direction of a federal judge if and when requested.
But let's make sure everyone is clear. There was no email, it was a comment posted by a person who liked accurate information directly to Simple Mobile. Makes you wonder how the information could be so accurate if there is no fraud being investigated?
Troy, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall a post by a member responding to this simple mobile issue, and actually taking credit for notifying Cathy.
Have I lost my mind again while trying to keep up with all of this?
Troy Page Plus has shut off all activations of SMART PHONES., So what will GV do now? HMMM cant wait to hear this weeks call that now they cant activate the phones that the associates bought, WOW I THINK IT FINALLY BLEW UP IN THEIR FACE.
Skim through these calls dating back to 5/5/09 just different players and the one on 7/01/09 was suppose to be the launch of zero 1. Jim Hellman thought it would be good if everyone on the call was able to explain the comp plan instead of turning on the PHANTOM PHAROS 137. You talk about groundhog day, listen to the excuses for the delays from 5/5/09 – last night, just a different twist. http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/49481
How many new e – associates don't have a clue to what's going on ? In this GV Town Hall on 8/18/09 Valerie ( what happened to her she disappeared ) Mark Ryder ( disappeared ) Craig Perry ( disappeared ) and Ted talk about how they look at losing their wireless provider as a positive and can't understand why some of us would look at it as a negative ( I guess I would be excited too if I had all of those $99 membership fees coming in and nothing going out ) I wonder how many dif players have been involved. http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/21600
Funny you bring these disappearances to light. I brought this to my sponsor's attention, especially in reference to Craig Perry months ago. I guess this is what they call an "open door" policy!
The leaders at GV such as Frank, Jan, Jim, Ruth are definitely making a name for themselves, though it's not a positive one. Listened to last saturday's Super Jan team call and instead of addressing the main issue at hand, she preferred to use this time to make sure the team new about the other "great products" they had access to. ROFLOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris, Im having problems getting a hold of you, first you gave us your number and told us to call you about the free 200 min, well im being trying to reach you for a week now, with no luck. so could you please allow panther customer service to handle that request or please call me to 615-7851853. I do have a question, since you have Simple Mobil licence are you planning to offer that tru panther mobile?. Seriously if we compare your service vs Wow service I see a lot difference in the service provided by them. So do you and Panther gonna do something about the DATA? everybody knows that now the technology of the PDA is really convenient for everybody, because of email, internet, social network, etc. so providing a service with only voice and text in 2010 dont think will do to much noice. So please do something on the Data part and please UNLIMITED is the Game plan. Please call me so I can give my testimonial of your service.
Thanks
Maybe you would have a better chance of reaching Chris through this post, rather than his Customer Service line, since it's obvious he spends most of his time here!.
your a funny girl, LOL, I answer questions here, Unlike Mark and Ted, Oh and my company gets phones shipped on time huh, So I must multitask verywell, Sorry your on that koolaide Cindy and I called you GVmember, but got voice mail and I left a message I go down the list and contact every one back, and I am available EVERY DAY on my actually LIVE CALLS, that I speak with the field on, everyday, so unlike GV i actually listen to the field
Well , I actually spoke with Chris over the phone while the superball !!, i think he just to busy getting every single call back but he is returning calls.
Easy Chris,
I was simply replying to GVmember. I never once mentioned GV, you did. For your information, I'm not drinking ANYONES' Koolaid. Not even yours. I have bigger plans that what you can offer. By the way, Mr. Transparent, I still have yet to see you produce those documents the bloggers have been asking you for. Shouldn't be any excuses, since your the multitasker of the year, right?
Make it a Blessed Day
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp… If the new e – associates knew that Ted, Mark and many others were lying when they made this audio what would they think. How can all this be overlooked by Ruth,Jan and the other leaders that knew ( I guess as Jan says " just another bump in the road " ). This call also reminds me of Mark over the past couple calls, wall to wall phones in stock and hundreds coming in EVERYDAY. WHAT ? He also had 100's PHAROS 137 PHANTOM PHONES coming in everyday filling the warehouse. Also, I can't tell you how many Tuesdays and Thursdays they were bringing on and training new staff. By my calculations Ted must have hired at least 5k – 10k new staff. It is ashame how innocent distributors can't see the pattern.
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 9:11 AM
Compliance is still working on identifying and moving to shut down all cowboy sites and is asking for assistance if you know of any that are still existing. Please send an email with the website address to compliance@globalverge.com. Steve Lewis met on Wednesday with his team, Ben Pilani and the Zero1 folks. They had committed 10 days ago to a revamping of everything within 4 weeks and are moving at or ahead of that timetable. The sim chip re-programming is a multiple issue. 200 or so phones for the triple diamonds will be sent on or before the 10th with manual reprogramming required. The automated reprogramming of 50,000 plus cards/phones so they do not have to be done manually is actively being worked on by the Zero1 group. Those sims need to all say Buzzirk Mobile powered by Zero1. August 10th is a key date as the phones and June commissions will be available then. July commissions are available August 15th and then that will be on track for the 15th of each month.
These folks are committed to the continued growth of this company, getting skeletons behind us, and moving this technology and company forward.
Whatever reservations you may have, this management team is moving forward with their plan and embracing the technology. There will be other telecommunications products offered in the next few months. The commitment, determination and vision presented is of a company in growth mode, not a company on the way out. You can make your own call on what you choose to do, but I can tell you all one thing. Steve Lewis is open and direct. His statements are not at all candy coated and contain no hype. This is a new company in technology, with new company issues. I did a meeting for Bob Moore and Paul Sickler, the first Nextel dealer in Southwest Florida. Paul spoke about his experiences in wireless. He invested over $350,000.00 in getting started with Nextel. More than 1/2 of the phones he originally ordered and delivered to clients did not work. Period. Imagine having to explain that to your team. We cannot afford for this technology and network to miss a beat. Better to be slow and correct, than to have this blow up on the launching pad with phones that do not work.
You will continue to see changes and positive moves in the next several weeks.
WOW !! FROM A COMPANY STANDPOINT WE COULDN'T BE HAPPIER RIGHT NOW
"Paul spoke about his experiences in wireless. He invested over $350,000.00 in getting started with Nextel. More than 1/2 of the phones he originally ordered and delivered to clients did not work. Period. Imagine having to explain that to your team. "
How things change ! Half of GM1 activations fail too !!!
I'm bringing all these calls back cause if you go back to 5/5/09 Mark is talking about integrating back office servers so support ticket issues could get resolved. To this day I don't know anyone who had a support ticket resolved. The new e – associates probably get some answers so they don't raise any suspicions early on. I have to admit I have been in their trance for 13 months. When I got back on autoship in Aug. after a 2 month lay out I got charged 4 extra $30 activations and in Nov. there was a double charge $109.95 on 11/01/09 and $69.95 on 11/04. You would think with all the staff that's been hired, this would not be able to slip through. Takes us back to before 5/05/09 integrating back office servers so things would run smoother. I think it's not too hard to set up in the program to catch when there is an extra activation charged and a full membership extra charge ( in the same month ). You think I'm the only one this has happened to ?
AGAIN FROM AN OVERALL COMPANY STANDPOINT WE COULDN'T BE HAPPIER
RIGHT NOW !! I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER BEEN MORE EXCITIDED TO LOSE
ANOTHER PROVIDER WE WILL LOOK AT THIS AS A POSITIVE AGAIN !! WHY THINK
NEG ? WE STILL HAVE MEMBERSHIPS COMING IN AND MANY MANY WATER
MACHINES TO HAITI WHEN OUR OWN E-ASSOCIATES ARE STRUGGLING TO GET
THEIR NEXT AUTOSHIP TOGETHER. I'm all for helping others don't get me wrong but when you have been through so many soft launches, pre-launches and then almost launching it gets old. Listening to the call on how excited the e-associates from Canada were when they realized the scale of operations that was going on at Lee Summit ( oh yeah and more technologies, never seen a company with more technologies). If GV is doing so well then they need to do a humanitarian rescue on their own American e – associates.
R Wright,
I find this interesting since the water machines run on electricity , and is very limited in electricity on a good day, let alone now. Having supported in-county missionary friends for years, clean water is not an issue. What they need now is cash to rebuild, buy medical supplies, and other needed items. Maybe they can sell the machines to get the building supplies so badly needed.
If you take care of your own, then there will be plenty of time to take care of others.
To be fair, I believe they said the machines would go on trucks with generators. You hit it on the head with taking care of your own FIRST.
R Wright,
Even that has me concerned. I know the cost of fuel of all kinds in Haiti right now is going through the roof. I hope they have the logistics in order, otherwise the machines will just sit.
I'm just trying to figure out how they will get something delivered out of the country, when they can't even deliver domestic phones and service.
The only place where such machines could be useful, is in dry deserts, and that's the place where they don't work so well, because there is very little moisture in the air.
Everywhere else, you need either water purifiers, or desalinizers.
Their "water machines" are overpriced gizmos. Tap water, filtered tapwater, or bottled water cost an order of magnitude less.
A bright student could cobble up a cheap distiller using laboratory glassware for about $200.
You'd use it for boiling water and condensing water instead of making moonshine with it.
Of course there is no reason whatsoever to buy such a machine when the tap water is fine in your city.
Please forward any picture you receive with water machines and generators on the ground in Haiti. Also I would need to see the statistics of the actual water output . I would then bring the facts to a group already sending supplies to see if it an area we could support. Also have Ted call me direct as this is big news if GV is reaching and helping in this area and his call to me would be in Haiti's interest. Ted can e-mail at david@healthyresidualfund.com.
Immediate question I need an answer to.
1. Are the machines built yet?
2.who owns them?
3. Are they in transit to Haiti?
4.What is the fuel costs per machine per day?
Once I have this info answered and have been contacted directly from the President of Global Verge,Ted Robbins, I will be very excited to bring this to the table to see if we can help.
Thank you for bring this to our attention
I am reposting this since it may have got overlooked a couple of days ago …
I am confused here? But doesn't Rogers own Fido? I don't understand how 2 agreements would be needed. Wouldn't it make more sense to run with Rogers & Telus, or Rogers & Bell or even Bell & Telus or better yet … all 3.
Could you provide further details about a Canadian launch … hopefully something better than what GV has been pitching … "it shouldn't be too long now.." or "let us smooth out the wrinkles so we can cookie cutter our launches…" anything better would be a sufficent answer
Thank you
Lesley,
I don't have this answer maybe someone else can answer.
Fido is mvno. And it doesn’t matter to me as a company. I only want the best price for our people in Canada. And I’m looking at ntelos as well. Bell was too expensive. But again why gv says they are in prelaunch we have service in the united states and Canada. And as for Gv branding their own phone. Anyone can apply a sticker to a phone, oh and don’t you love how scared they are? Quote” if you don’t pay your autoship and stay current u will be compressed out and can’t rejoin for a year” wow now they are using scare tactics to keep e associates. And the fact they say they are in prelaunch. Wow I mean how many prelaunches do u get. Ampd, zero1, akw. Really what’s this one going to be.
I can’t wait to see what is said after they lose 2,000 more eassocites
Hey Troy!
You're always honest when you don't have an answer and to that end we ALL thank you!
As a matter of fact BELL OWNS FIDO and NOT Rogers!
In addition …
CANADA is the MOST difficult country for ANY WIRELESS to enter into agreements with! They have their very OWN CONGLOMERATE and with LEGALITIES involved – it's almost impossible to date to get them BETTER services as we understand it!
"Could you provide further details about a Canadian launch"
I have no information at all, but when Ted Robbins mentions South Africa and Australia, I merely assume he's lying.
When he speaks about warehouses full of phones, he already told the very same fib last August.
It was a lie then, and it's a lie now. The Emperor has no phones.
Sorry, this was a response to Chris Greco in which he mentioned the agreements that Panther had signed with Rogers & Fido, my post was obviously overlooked so I re-posted it.
I'll believe GV has a product other than VoIP for Canada … when I actually see it
I apologize for the confusion.
I just wanted Troys site to have this first, Global Verge has officially changed the name of their wireless company again!! and it looks suspiciously like the one they were using for zero1, with the same plans, wow. But here is what shows you its all just a lie and a scam to get people to hang on, The phones they are selling are all Verizon Branded phones, CDMA, but they are selling GSM service supposedly, Do a WHOIS on it you will see b2bnetworks which does all of their work on their site. And see that major mistake for yourself. http://www.unlimitedmobilereseller.com, I think this is laughable, Its just more koolaide, Oh and they say they have BRANDED I PHONES, Yeah Mark I can Put a Sticker with my companies name on the phone too. And lets not forget how fast the warehouse is filling up with phones again, Just like the Pharos 137's were, The Fact is when he said it then "TED" He was lying, and everyone knows it, my proof is their own call and the lawsuit against pilani states that Global Verge wants the 11 Pharos 137 phones back from Pilani that they bought, Those must be some big phones to take up the size of warehouses, LOL 11 phones, wow you cant even say he is exaggerating, thats just plain lying, and its happening again, the site is down, because they have no service, I have right now 74 emails from people at GV who cant get their phones re activated. Ill post them with troys permission and after they are cleaned for personal data, But it is what it is, Global Verge lost 2,109 E associates to Our company LAST WEEK ALONE, and there have been another 918 sign ups for trials of the company, Which 103 of them already signed up to have full status with us at PantherMobile, All I know is why mark and ted say they have this or that I provide proof, I am sending troy a pic of a phone we use with our brand on the screen not the phone mark and ted and no not a sticker thank you,
I see a company Scared that its all over and they are about to have to close the door, It is what it is, YOU CANT ACTIVATE CDMA phones ON GSM networks, MARK and TED have really outdone themselves this time,
Well this could be interesting.
Chris, feel free to post, but do protect the privacy of the end users.
Can you elaborate on how you tie the above site into GV? I think this will be helpful for all who read this comment.
I remember seeing this site back in the summer. I came upon it when I was looking at the competition. How could that be their's and have done everything they did with GM1? Unless they had left it in place as a back door to their original idea. Which I must say is a lot better than what they have now (minus the commission of the top plan, $14 back to $10). Interesting.
This site was created July 15 09. It was being used by a downline to promote GV. I to found this site back in the summer. It has recently been modified, though not much. So now they don't have the money to spend on their own new site, or is it that they don't want to sink anymore funds into a sinking ship?
You can definitely see how this site resembles the main GV site. Paypal, are you kidding me?
It is done by B2Bnetworks, and they paypal goes to a BuzzirkMobile, I find it laughable, Also if you look at the video on the site, its the same as the global verge, and also the maps if you same the image it says Global Mobile 1 coverage, So I find this laughable, Also this was sent to me by a member of the advisory board. So I will get a post together with the data stripped so everyones info is secure, But I just think its sad that they are gonna try and scam more people with a different face
Are you sure that isn't just a rep's website?
Chris please help me, this is James garcia In San Jose, Ca. I have been trying to get you to help me but for the passed week and a 1/2 no one is returning any of my calls and Kandis is not calling me back, please help me port my cell phone over so I can have my cell phone on again. Kandis was given everything Friday of last week and now one has called me about the business or porting my number over?? Whats going on? You told me that I can go direct because I don't want to do MLM any more. Are you not doing any business with me because I don't trust MLM any more? Can you please call me, please tell me the truth here, if you don't want to do business with me then please tell me so I can go els where and get my business. Call me please I had to get a temp Virgin Phone, here@ 408-375-6721
James,
Unfortunately Chris is now experiencing the same problem that Global Verge had. When you lack the necessary infrastructure to support an MLM organization everything falls apart. You can have all the best intentions and really desire to offer people a good product and opportunity. But unfortunately (as we've seen over and over and over again over the last 2 years), it takes a lot more than that to make it in the wireless world of MLM!
oh Concerned MLMer um we have a infastructure, How do you think we are activating and shipping phones daily, thats why there are no complaints about service or people not getting phones, Because we have what we need in place to make this work, And just so you know we Grew 67% last week alone, So we will continue to do this and grow every week, Be out on the look out for videos on the company and Oh yeah people in Canada that actually have service through Panther, Hmmm how many companies have service in Canada? Hmmm oh thats right Just us, Panther Mobile, And South Africa is having sims shipped tomorrow for beta testing, Then comes Australia. So I think with as fast as we are growing, Over 1800 associates in the last 6 days, I would say we handled that well, And as we take on the 4722 associates from canada and south africa has so many I cant count, It should become interesting, I can tell you, we will pass everyone else, I mean EVERYONE, on Price, Product, and Growth. I have produced here at panther and will continue to do so why these other companies make nothing but promises, The only company I even consider competition is Wow mobile, Because they actually have wireless service, While everyone else makes promises, So we are producing Lighting up phones, and doing what needs to done to Grow in the wireless Arena, Its what I do.
Chris,
I wonder how fast you would have grown without Troys' free advertising??
I think you owe him a HUGE THANK YOU!! Do give credit where credit is do. Stop with your 'holier than thou' attitude. Before you write another chapter defending yourself, I'm not with Global Verge. Save your breath.
I cant tell, and believe me I am not holier than thou, But I admit when I am wrong Troy does not give me a break if I screw up, I dont expect anyone to, So have I got alot of attention for our company here, Yup wont lie about it at all, But you know why, Um our system works, and we are activating phones, and free trials all day, So if your not with GV, who then, I have got alot of people upset because our company is doing what all these other companies have tried for years, So it is what it is, We are providing what we said we would while GV well its GV and they are still waiting, Have you heard the new threatening letters that if you dont pay your auto ship they will compress you out this month and you cant get back in for a year, Yeah that sounds ethical, and further It sounds like someone is scared. I would be if a company did in 3 weeks what I was trying to do for months. But seriously its over for GV plain and simple, The only company out there I even consider Valid competition is WOW mobile, And thats because they have service you can touch feel and use, unlike all these Excited promises of warehouses full of phones, Have people forgot the Warehouses of pharos phones that Ted said they had, Oh thats right they dont have any, I tell you what Ill send in real photos of our warehouse where their is actual phones, and I wanna see ted and mark do the same with the 11,000 I phones they have. I tell you one better, If mark and ted can PROVE FOR A FACT, THEY HAVE 11,000 NEW I PHONES IN A WAREHOUSE, I WILL KISS BOTH OF THEIR BARE ASSES, hows that? Really come on folks, If you just joined GV I am so sorry you have to see all this, but do your research and go out and see for yourself what you have in a company. Three Felons at the top, A convicted Possesor of Child pornography, A security fraud expert, And a Drug Dealer. Wow. Now for all the christian Folks out here, that doesnt sound too christly to me, Why would you associate yourselves with that. So it is what it is, Be on the look out for an open letter to mark and ted, from all the former executives and leaders from GV telling it like it is.
Again I want to thank troy for giving me a voice and an opportunity to defend myself against these @*#&$(&@(@#& , and telling people how to do this wireless business on the retail and MLM side, and I look forward to growing with all of you, I will be in Raliegh, NC these next three days helping a Panther Leader at his meetings build his business, ………..Yeah I do that, its called keeping your promises, I know who builds this business, you guys in the field, And its only fair that I get out there and help you build your business. And I will continue to do that Retail, and MLM
thanks
Chris Greco
Chris,
There is no doubt you are willing to stand tall as a target.
I want our subscribers and readers to understand ONE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE… I received a call yesterday from a Triple Diamond. He and other Triple Diamonds wanted to know "why are you allowing Chris to promote his business on MLM Help Desk?" I want to clear the air on that issue.
Chris has contacted me privately since the very first time he partnered with GV. He has never hidden from the hard questions, and he has been willing to send me phones to test to prove their service works.
But, more than that… Chris has posted some pretty hard posts, this one included, and not once has Global Verge, Ted, Mark or Raymond, or their respective attorneys sent cease and desists or disputed any of what Chris has written.
I also find it very interesting that neither Ted or Mark went after Steve Lewis or Chris Greco for any type of civil or criminal actions. As I talked to my own attorney on this issue, it has become very clear, neither Steve Lewis or Chris Greco must have lied about anything.
What other reason could there be? they have a telecommunication attorney send me a cease and desist letter over my reporting that Chris cut them off, but they have never disputed anything else, nor did they follow up with evidence proving Chris had lied this time.
Now in all fairness, Chris, you have made some pretty hard statements above about Ted, Mark and Raymond… We all know of Ted's history. However, could you provide links to official websites, new paper articles etc. to backup your claims these two are "are a pedophile (Convicted Possessor of child porn) and a Drug Dealer" Providing some 3rd party validation would go a long ways to validating you are not just trying to get even with these guys for a business dealing gone bad.
I will be getting the official docs from the seattle district court, as well as jacksonville and I will mail you a hard copy and scan and send you a copy of everything I get.
Thanks
I make those hard statements cause they are true if they werent I would have been hit for slander long ago and thats a fact.
Cindy why lie?? I though better about you? What happened to much Globalverge? You now lie lik they do?? By the way Cindy is also part of another Scam "Narcthecar" She is one of the big pushers of Globalverge.
Warmly,
941-468-0553
Cindy Rodrigues
(712) 432-1011 PIN: 483294772# (10 min. recorded call)
http://www.empoweru.globalverge.com
http://www.empoweru.globalmobile1.com (Phones and plans)
CHANGING THE WORLD ONE COUNTRY AT A TIME
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Um… Didn't James G just complain and present a problem?
James, I've been asking alot of questions about Panther Mobile. I can tell you that every time I have sent a support ticket to them, it has been answered in under 30 minutes.
Go to http://www.PantherMobile.com and click on the "Need Help Now" button to have your question answered. I bet you will experience the same as I have.
I do know that Panther support envolves much more than Chris.
Hope this helps you.
James, I've been asking alot of questions about Panther Mobile. I can tell you that every time I have sent a support ticket to them, it has been answered in under 30 minutes.
Go to http://www.PantherMobile.com and click on the "Need Help Now" button to have your question answered. I bet you will experience the same as I have.
I do know that Panther support envolves much more than Chris.
Hope this helps you.
I did this 3 days ago and Panther Mobile has not sent me anything! I also asked the if they had a Tethering plan because this was a HOT thing and everybody wants it, like Fast! Till today, no one has contacted me from PM !
I tried to call you just now 6:51 pm est today but got voice mail feel free to call me back 888-909-4927 ext 0, If you get a customer service rep ask them to put you in que to talk to me, ok I will help you personally with your issue.
Chris Thank You! I thought you were going to leave me to the buzzards! The call we had give me confidence about you and your business. Your cool and thoughtful as well. I'm looking forward to finally opening up my store front! Again Thanks Chris!
Sincerely,
James & Jocelyn Garcia, S.J Ca.
Troy a google search brings up the following. Currently position 2 for the search.
GV Partners with B2B Network Systems For New Website
GV has partnered with B2B Network Systems LLC. (Lexington, KY), to expand its website presence and tell its story globally. The new high-end website offers …
http://www.globalverge.com/index.php?…b2b-network-syst... – Cached
Troy, the unlimitedmobilereseller website was branded exclusively for Ruth Mayer's team and another cross-line team of ours. This site has the ability to reach at the top of google and that's the truth. I have personal knowlwdgw of that event.
concern eassociate,
So this is Ruth's site and the cross-line team ONLY? Or is this a new persona for Global Mobile 1? Has she given GV the website? Just trying to make sure we present the full story, not just what might be the true story on this issue. I check the Whois and it doesn't go to GV at all.
Troy, the unlimited mobile reseller site is an approved Global Verge marketing site that our team was to use exclusively to market our mobile products on the internet. That site is in compliance with GV policy and procedure. This site is not a spin off and rebranding of the Global Mobile 1 site. Troy in all due respect, we need to report accurate information in OUR community. Finally, associates that wanted this marketing site paid anywhere from $4.99 to $ 9.99 monthly for this site, and it is a third party vendor and has nothing to do with GV and Global Mobile1.
Concerned E-Associate,
If you will notice I have asked questions on this issue, based on the fact the whois did not read Global Verge or any of the other companies. We will continue to watch the site, since Chris Greco brought it to our attention, but again, we are aware that at this time the whois, does not show any GV ownership.
Agian, thank you for posting.
That’s very nice, but how come Ruth Mayne and her team has access to UNLIMITED data for $79.99, when no other small company, not even Global Mobile, can offer that package ?
Is this just a recruiting tool, they recruit peoples, promising a product they know they cannot deliver ? Because that’s what they have been doing for the last 9 months.
Is Ruth a MVNO too ?
yeah troy and they are paying for google advertising
$39.99/m Unlimited Talk
Slash Mobile Costs. No Contract
All Networks – All Phones .I Need U
unlimitedmobilereseller.com
i think its funny people will find out its global verge. and then it will sink as well
Hello Troy and others
I have been in GV sence Jun 17th 2009 and have been way more then patient, I would really like to see some hard facts/proof on alot of things that are being said on this site. So i could show these facts to alot of other members and we can all move on with our lives because the past 8 mths have been Hell !
Lets see some hard proof and move on !!! Thanks
Global Verge Victims,
I think we have provided ample proof, since we have used the words of those who run the company. Review all the audio's from last year to present and tell me what has changed.
Read my posts and ask yourself "Why doesn't Global Verge respond legally to protect their reputation? Why didn't they have their attorney provide evidence that what I posted last month was false?
And most of all why hasn't Global Verge owners gone after Steve Lewis and Chris Greco, everything from corporate espionage, to down right stealing the corporate database and using it to put people into competing companies?
The burden of proof is not on us, although we are always willing to share when asked as we did last week. the burden of proof is always tried in a court of law.
Why? WHy would a company continue to take good hearted, honest hard working peoples month month after month, the whole time never going after their former CEO and strategic partner to protect the reputation of the company? Why?
Why have they never been willing to do an interview with me, when other CEOs we have questioned have come forward to answer the hard questions and protect their brand?
Why is it Mark has to start a new company every two or three years, instead of running one company and allowing people to build long term income?
The days, months and years change, but the same excuses from Global Verge are the same. Listen to the recordings. Remember back in the days of Zer01 when Mark and Ted said they had warehouses full of the Zer01 phones ready to activate… No phones ever existed… Now we hear they have warehouses full of phones… No service to activate. Each time something happens, Global Verge blames others, never taking responsibility of their actions.
The proof is here, but the biggest preponderance of proof is the last of defense by the people themselves who have not denied in a court of law any of the charges.
Only time will tell.
Here is the info I promised this is the preliminary filing for us to bring suit in FEDERAL Court so that we can have all these facts and everything they have done exposed.
Go to http://www.activationkingwireless.com to see the official filing.
Chris Greco
Your Majesty, would you be so kind to explain, for our information, what was the nature of your business relationship with Global Verge, dba Global Mobile One.
And, 2. How long did this business relationship lasted ?
A short factual answer would be useful.
Thank you in advance, Activation King.
Wow Just saw this on the activation king wireless site, Chris has filed suit against Global Verge,
Yes we have filed to have a federal court hear the case and since this goes over so many state lines and is over 72,000, our legal team feels there is a federal question, and we can bring this in federal court. I will post the decision as soon as it comes in.
Chris,
Thanks for posting. I guess that is why their attorney's never got back with us on this issue.
Yep,
I was sent the formal filing today. I am waiting to receive the filed copy.
Just listened to the GV Corporate call. Really just wanting to know where my friend Jan stands. Seems like she still stands strong. I'm baffled by that!! Anyway, what on earth are they talking about now? New sales Incentive program? I can't believe the arrogance of these people taking the first 27 minutes of the call to talk about some new sales incentive program for the distributors. They're all happy and proud of themselves??
As for the mobile phone "project", Mark is learning "what to do, what not to do" and Ted "couldn't be more pleased from his standpoint". Now there's a new Phase 1, 2 and 3 announcement coming Thursday evening!! I'm outraged that I hung in there so long. As a double diamond I've been wasting $99/mo since August. Has anyone been successful in getting their money back from Global Verge? If so I want to know how you went about it and I'm sure I'm not alone!
Robert, I submitted several support tickets back in the fall and they finally sent a reply. They stated that "they could no longer give refunds". No reason was given.
I filed a complaint with the Mo. AG office. However, to my disappointment, to this day there are only 12 complaints filed with the AG. If everyone would take action and file their complaint online, it would get the AG's attention. I just don't understand how people can stand by and do absolutely nothing. Which I'm sure is just what Mark and Ted are counting on. Probably sitting there laughing as well.
My hat is off to Chris. Maybe, just maybe, we will get to see these documents and expose them for what they are.
Well I am putting in my refund request as well and encouraging my entire group to do the same. Not sure what moves you all are making but contact me if you are or looking to at networker2008@mail.com
Mark is learning "what to do, what not to do".
Well, Mark is "talking to the carriers". He's better talk fast.
Strange, Ted recently assured us that he had ironclad "contracts" with "the carriers", and that Global Mobile One "was a MVNO". If he's a MVNO, why doesn't he roll out his own plans ?
RobertPalmBeach …
Distraction – Distraction – Distraction …well Dorothy, what are we to do? Kansas seems a long way AWAY, ha! Just KEEP a sense of humor and enjoy the fact that we have altenatives and we don't have to worry about the past …ONLY the future!
Troy have you heard the new call, That voip sounded great breaks and hiccups on the whole call, lol, Also I am posting the new email that they are sending out to south africa and canada members, they set a date, and I want everyone in this community to hold them to it.
I am privy to information that I cannot reveal. What I can reveal is that
Global Verge has all the financing they need for all the countries, products
and services because there was speculation that they have no money. That
is not true and Mark confirmed it in an email personally to me last week.
They have hit hurdles which they are working through quickly and although I
cant talk abt it, they have a solution to the SA Voip latency problem which
should be resolved imminently. It has not been abt lying, but abt slow
moving SA vendors and that is all I can say. Mark has confirmed to me that
they have a solution to resolve the Voip to SA quickly.
Contrary to what you believe, they are paying attention to SA as I think
they have gotten the USA just abt covered. I keep get reports from people
who have distributors in the US who say the quality of the calls and the
service is excellent. Management has repeatedly said they dont want to
launch the Mobile service until they are sure there are no bugs and that the
flow of products is moving quickly and it seems they are abt there. Then
they will launch the mobile service in SA too and also for retail.
One thing I have learned, and I have been in from the beginning in all the
ups and downs, and that is they just put their heads down in the storms and
press on, resolving problems as they arise. They are true survivors.
This is the company I have chosen to be with because despite all the
criticism and difficulties they have gone thru they have never given up (and
they could have walked away a long time ago, which is what many other
companies do). They are bringing new services out that no other Carrier in
the world has and, naturally, they have to work out the bugs before
releasing it. I understand though that this is almost done (I am talking
abt the mobile service). Since they are doing things which no other Carrier
has ever attempted before, it is also a learning curve for them. They hv
contracted the very best Consultants and some major specialist players they
have taken in a working partnership (not the affiliate program but the
services). So they are not bungling along, they have the best in the
industry helping to put it all together.
I am convinced that when this is all done, we are going to have something
that will make you proud and regain your credibility. I for one, have been
offered many chances of making a quick buck, but I am sticking to Global
Verge, because i believe in what they are doing and I admire their
toughness, perseverance against all odds. Other companies come and go, but
Global Verge is still there.
I would rather be with a company that tackles problems and never give up and
after seeing what they have gone through, I am more convinced than ever that
this is the company of the future. I would rather wait for things to be
done properly than hapazardly, knowing that what I have to offer is
something special that nobody else has.
I can advise you that there are 3 new products coming out, two of which are
worldwide opening more avenues for us.''
This is interesting GiConnect has been doing business in SA and Australia for years providing VOIP cell phones along with other VOIP products.
I sure don't understand first of all why it has taken this long. I guess maybe with the attrition in the US, they need to push forward internationally.
Time will tell.
so now that that is there its a joke, I cant wait to see the open letter from steve lewis to Mark Petschel and Ted Robbins, I cant wait to see it!!! Because it will expose everything, The merchant account issues, The money over seas, the fact that mark violated his federal probation multiple times by soliciting funds, in another state. This should be interesting to see.
Has anyone noticed that GV hasnt responded to our filing in federal court, Maybe its cause they are trying to get their tickets to leave the country now, I find it laughable that they are promising these good distributors in south africa and canada something they cant provide
SO MARK AND TED SAID THE 15TH OF MARCH THE E ASSOCIATES WILL HAVE THEIR RETAIL SITES, THEIR EMAIL NOT MINE, SO PLEASE HOLD THEM TO IT. I AM WILLING TO BET YOU NOT ONLY WILL IT NOT BE DONE BY THE FIFTEENTH, IT WILL BE MUCH LONGER, AND AS FOR SOUTH AFRICA AND CANADA, YEAH THAT WOULD BE A YEAR OR MORE. THE WAY THEY ARE GOING.
The latest corporate has put Global Verge back on track…now we have a premium incentive program and there will be further announcements on Thursday's corporate call about the mobile phones. The e associates need to listen to the call and make up their own minds. I'd be interested in your replies!
Well,
It will be interesting to see what's up. I know I received a call from an insider today, and it will be very interesting to see what happens in the future.
That it will. One never knows, do they Troy. <:)
I fully agree!!!!
"The latest corporate has put Global Verge back on track…now we have a premium incentive program"
I don't get it at all. Global Verge has no Unlimited phone plans to sell, "the carriers" are not interrested in getting involved with a 2-bits MLM outfit.
I don't get the "incentives" either. Who will buy the "certificates" to a 3-days dream getaway, value $200, cost $1.75 ??? How will one earn one ?? By recruiting 50 new E-Associates ? By selling 100 bogus phone plans ?
Do people really get motivated to BS other peoples by a $1.75 paper certificate ?
_Arthur,
From what I have read in the latest letter from Ted, it will be another 4 to 6 weeks before they are selling phones to distributors let alone retail. I had a company contact me yesterday to show me how easy it is to set up an API (Techie talk) to integrate the activation process for any company directly into the back office on a MLM Wireless company. I was blown away at the fact, they were able to connect everything to the distributors ID number, and within just a couple of minutes the phone was activated and the distributor notified a sale had been made.
I'll just keep watching, but it sure is confusing why it takes so long… Over a year.
Troy, not only they have halted all shipping, BUT THE PHONES THEY SHIPPED WON'T ACTIVATE !!!.
You think their refund program will work ?
Well, I just had a conversation with a former top leader from Australia and it doesn't look like any USA based MLM wireless company's refund policy works for them. So only time will tell for those in the USA.
By the way, Troy, you can tell your lawyer that Global Verge defamation threat to you is pretty much over, since Ted Robbins grudgingly acknowledges his company has not been able to activate any phones since 3 weeks back.
So, the information you posted was basically right, and it did put Global Mobile One business model in jeopardy.
I wonder if the UnlimitedMobileReseller website will go off-line. Since they are the same entity than Global Verge, they DON'Y have $79.95 plans to sell, or, if they sell any, they cannot actually activate phones. There is no mention of Global Verge anywhere on the UMR website.
I wonder how the newborn Triple Diamonds Advisory Council is reacting to the news.
Maybe they have known all about it, since 3 weeks ago ?
Arthur, How about a dispute on your Credit Card for 'not receiving the product or service that you p