Data Network Affiliate Moved Out Of Scam Alerts By MLM Help Desk

Our goal at MLM Help Desk is not to determine if a company is a MLM scam or pyramid scheme. Our focus is to ask some hard questions, reveal areas of concern and raise the red flags which could cause the Federal trade Commission or individual State Attorney generals to question the legitimacy of the company as a viable MLM business opportunity.

From the very beginning we have voiced huge concerns over the use of an MLM compensation structure by DNA or any other company, when paying their “distributors” to collect license plates; this concern has not changed, however Data Network Affiliates has made some major strives to show the direct selling industry their goal is to create a viable long term MLM business opportunity for the average distributor, as well as the full-time MLM professional.

As a matter of fact Bob Sullivan of The Red Tape Chronicles over at MSNBC has taken an interest in Data Network Affiliates and just wrote an interesting article on both DNA and Narc. What I found interesting is the fact, Sullivan found the need to explain the difference between a MLM scam and a legitimate MLM business opportunity.

Listen to the official announcement of DNA Cellular On April 10, 2010

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DNA Connects

With the launch of DNA Connects in 18 days, Data Network Affiliates will be providing a viable marketing channel between their distributors and the end buyer, which is exactly what the FTC and AGs will be looking for, if they decide to review DNA for violations.

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This week also brought the launch of the DNA Cellular division. Data Network Affiliates teamed up with Chris Greco who is a well known figure in the wireless community. Chris came on to the MLM wireless scene a few months ago, and since then has played a part in helping more than one company get their wireless companies launched.

Greco and his team have quickly proven they are the people to see if your an MLM company wanting to solidify or launch a wireless company or division.

And with DNA Cellular announcing an UNLIMITED Talk & Text $10.00 monthly service, the MLM wireless wars just heated up to an all new level.

So, although there are still many unanswered questions as to the future of Data Network Affiliates, it is clear they are moving towards launching a viable MLM business opportunity for their current and future distributors.

We will continue to monitor Data Network Affiliates, and if we see new concerns we will be raising questions with the founders and leadership of DNA for answers.

Like all MLM companies, it takes strong leadership in the corporate office and even stronger leadership in the field, and this is yet to be seen.

We will continue to monitor the DNA situation, staying in contact with the corporate leadership, and listening to the folks in this community who continue to post comments and sending emails keeping us up to date on what the field is seeing from the inside.

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy Dooly

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177 thoughts on “Data Network Affiliate Moved Out Of Scam Alerts By MLM Help Desk”

  1. i have been trying to contact someone at DNA to set up a cell phone franchise,but if i;m giving my hard earned money to someone,via emails,,,i need a phone call and an 'in person' meeting…not giving 1000's of dollars to someones,,,email,,,,how can i 'speak' with a 'live' person…on the phone,,,to set up an in person meeting ? ,,,thanks

  2. Hi Rick,

    Thank you for responding.

    (A) Didn't work with my CC company as they told me future stop payments wouldn't work as I had authorized these charges. They issued me a new number for my account.

    I will try B!

    Linda

  3. Troy,

    Yup, agreed. Everyone should decide for themselves if a chargeback is warranted and needed. If they can get a resolution to the matter with DNA then by all means they should try and do it that way, which is what I tried to do with no response from DNA.

    I tried contacting them via the only method given(email) and waited about a week before filing my chargeback with my bank and then freezing any future transactions from them. I waited this long because I am in the merchant services industry doing credit card processing among other things and did not want to file a chargeback as I know that could potentially harm their standing with their processor, however they chose to not communicate with me to try and resolve this issue and apparently as they tried to charge my account again they are either ignoring cancellation requests or are not on top of things either way they are not handling business as it should be handled.

    In fact the only contact other than promotional emails or the email saying they could not charge my account after I canceled service have been from 'Mr. P'…

    Contact from Mr. P:

    1. An offer of a $50,000 bet made by 'Mr. P' that Chris Greco would not be with Global Pros in six months. This bet was posted on your site.

    2. Various outlandish and rude comments on another blog http://www.mlmwirelessnews.com followed by his public posting that he had my distributorship terminated or suspended for life as he put it.

    If the company in question does not perform and does not provide a reasonable method of contact for someone to resolve a complaint a client is fully within their rights to initiate a chargeback and let the card issuer investigate and take care of the matter directly on the client's behalf. If the bank rules in their favor, case closed, if in the favor of the merchant, case closed.

    The big issues with DNA are that they do not have a phone number to contact them, no address to mail correspondence to and a gmail account to email support that NEVER replies back. They do not even have an address listed in 'The Statement of Terms and Conditions' that they have reps electronically sign before using their back office… This agreement however is obviously an agreement that they pulled down from the web as they just did a find and replace to insert 'Data Network Affiliates'. you can tell because on page 14 of the agreement where everything is in ALL CAPS the only part that is not all caps is their company name and I also did a search online and found this agreement being used by http://www.caribebay.biz (Click on sign up and read the tos!)

    DNA is really running a loose ship. Did they even consult a MLM Attorney? I just don't get any attorney letting them use a TOS that isn't specific to their company and their products and services. I've had attorneys draw up TOS and Privacy Policies before and it only costs a few hundred dollars or in this case with the complexity maybe a thousand or a little more. With the hundreds of thousands of dollars they have brought in and with the financial backing they have you would think that they would invest into the legal structure of the company to avoid issues.

    Rick Weston

    Future Wireless Millionaire

  4. Rick,

    Be careful publicly suggesting the bank stuff. Under some of the new credit rules and regulations, this type of action could get a person in some trouble, and if the advice comes from you, there can be some back lash. I understand what you are trying to do, just be cautious.

  5. Linda,

    I have a simple solution for you… well actually two. The first is the fastest and the second is just fun…

    A. Call your bank and reverse the charges due to non performance by the company, then have them put a stop payment on any future attempted transactions. That is what I did to keep from having my account reputedly charged.

    B. Make posts in reply to 'Mr. P' and question him about everything in relation to him and DNA and his current marketing materials etc etc. Ask the really hard questions like proving that he has ever paid out one of his $100,000 guarantees to anyone that he has offered it to in any company he has been with that qualified for it. etc etc. He will then call DNA like he did in my case and terminate your distributorship. I guess that is what 'lead consultants' are able to get done these days! LOL…

    Seriously though Network Marketing Companies need to start running their businesses like real businesses. Otherwise they are just opening themselves up to extreme scrutiny and sanctions by governing entities. In many cases I think that the Feds could push for wire fraud charges and send some of these guys away for a very long time…

    Rick Weston

    Future Wireless Millionaire

    My Latest blog post on recruiting: http://wirelessreps.com/wp/2010/05/24/building-yo

  6. Linda Mobley-Akins,

    This is great! However, it is bigger than just DNA. I am going to do a whole post on cancelling from ANY and ALL MLM companies.

  7. Linda Mobley-Akins,

    This is great! However, it is bigger than just DNA. I am going to do a whole post on canceling from ANY and ALL MLM companies.

  8. Troy,

    I believe you should run a topic on how hard is it to cancel with DNA! I hope Phil will take me out of the system. I am just sooo sorry that I really pushed my line to upgrade!

    To prove my point on how hard it is to cancel with DNA. I bought and paid for my brothers account simple to help him as he is about to go through foreclosure on his house. Run and maintained by me as he has No computer because he can't afford internet for now.

    Notice the email was sent on the 21st. Your Pro Status has been deactivated and etc…

    On the 22nd a day after I received this email.

    —– Forwarded Message —-

    From: "outboundonly@datanetworkaffiliates.com"

    To: "freegas2all@yahoo.com"

    Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 10:07:12 AM

    Subject: URGENT: DNA Credit Card Payment Failed

    05/22/2010

    Dear Curry Meeks,

    Our system was unable to process a payment for Data Network Affiliates (DNA) account number 110060479 in the amount of $29.97 on 05/22/2010.

    Our attempt/s to charge the amount to your DNA Virtual Account was unsuccessful due to insufficient balances.

    We have also attempted to charge your credit card on file, a Visa ending in 0672. A summary of our attempts to process the payment from your credit card on file follows;

    TrxDate TrxID CardType Last4 ExpDate Amount Message

    5/19/2010 10:09:00 AM 19497 VI 0672 102010 $29.97 The transaction resulted in an AVS mismatch. The address provided does not match billing address of cardholder.

    5/20/2010 10:07:00 AM 19883 VI 0672 102010 $29.97 The transaction resulted in an AVS mismatch. The address provided does not match billing address of cardholder.

    5/21/2010 10:05:00 AM 20150 VI 0672 102010 $29.97 The transaction resulted in an AVS mismatch. The address provided does not match billing address of cardholder.

    5/22/2010 10:07:00 AM 20424 VI 0672 102010 $29.97 The transaction resulted in an AVS mismatch. The address provided does not match billing address of cardholder.

    We will automatically attempt to re-process the transaction in 24 hours. If you do not update your account information immediately, your DNA account may be suspended and all commissions due now and in the future will be forfeited. Time is of the essence in this matter as all forfeited commissions are non-reclaimable.

    Please take one or more of the following actions;

    1.) Have another DNA Affiliate transfer from their respective DNA Virtual Account to your DNA Virtual Account sufficient funds to allow payment to be processed.

    2.) Log into your DNA Back Office and click on Profile Tab and update/add your credit card information to allow payment to be processed. You may also want to contact your credit card company to be sure that the transaction will clear. If we have attempted to charge your card the reason/s for decline may be stated above.

    We thank you in advance for your prompt cooperation in this matter.

    Best Regards,

    The DNA Management Team

    You are receiving this email as part of your DNA membership. To change your email preferences go to Profile Tab in your DNA Back Office. This is an automated message from DNA, please do not reply.

    —– Forwarded Message —-

    From: DNA Support

    To: Linda Atkins

    Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 4:41:24 PM

    Subject: Re: I wish to cancel

    Your Pro status has been deactivated.

    You will no longer be charged the 29.97 monthly

    On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Linda Atkins wrote:

    I have emailed you on the 8th,12 and 13 to cancel this account. 110060479.

    Curry Meeks

    Active Pro Affiliate

    User #: 110060479

    CANCEL IT!

    —– Forwarded Message —-

    From: Linda Atkins

    To: dna.support.dna@gmail.com

    Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 10:40:23 PM

    Subject: I wish to cancel

    Please cancel DNA order number 205034 Rep. Number: 110060479

    Yours Truly,

    The DNA Management Team

    ***This is a post-only message. Please do not respond.***

    D.N.A. Customer Service

    We hope we responded to this e-mail in a timely manner. If we did not we apologize. It is so hard to find MLM Customer Service Agents who truly understand the MLM Affiliate. We are doing all we can to expand this department to better serve you…

  9. Hello Troy And Rick,

    I am having the same problems with the cancelations and so is my family members that went Pro.

    They even dinged my credit card for a $1.00 twice, I suppose to see if they could make a charge go through. They charged me and I got my CC to reverse the charges.

    I am forced to change everything with my bank just for protection. I have never seen anything like this in my life. You should be able to cancel if you are unhappy with a company.

    Linda Mobley-Atkins

  10. Troy,

    Yet more issues with DNA… After having my account terminated by Phil Piccolo, who had my FREE Affiliate account terminated. I decided to take a look at their terms-of-service and privacy policy… Well, the TOS is lacking any real substance and I don't think that it meets the minimum requirements for doing business online… I will look into that further and their Privacy Policy is missing completely from their site.

    These are items that any business doing business on the Internet needs to have covered in order to be legal… to not even make any real effort to meet these requirements, these very simple and basic everyone knows you need to do them requirements, casts a huge shadow on their entire business and their management team. If you really plan on building a long term business these are things that you take care of… yesterday. Maybe they aren't planning on having a long term business? Looking at Phil's track record that seems to be the case.

    Anyway, just thought this was very interesting…

    Rick Weston

    Future Wireless Millionaire

  11. Troy,

    DNA terminated my affiliate account with them as I was so eloquently notified by Phil Piccolo at http://www.mlmwirelessnews.com/blog.php in the comments section. This guy really is something else!

    Rick Weston

    Future Wireless Millionaire

    Rick Weston's recent blog post! : http://wirelessreps.com/wp/2010/05/11/get-your-ow

  12. Rick,

    I talked to George on Friday, and he has promised me an review of all products and services, along with an interview shortly. I will keep everyone up to date. I was also contacted by an investigation firm out of California on Friday looking for information on Piccolo. So before to long I think we will know more about what is going on inside of DNA and outside with Piccolo.

    Stay tuned.

  13. Troy,

    I am very much looking forward to your post on this issue.

    Now that I think about it… DNA is making it easy for distributors to purchase ALL of the 'products' that they are offering…

    Cell phone plans… 'Shipping sometime between the 15th and the end of the month approximately.

    DNA Sleep Systems, the up and coming Nutritional Product Line, discount dental, RX cards, etc etc. etc., dish network, ad revenue, etc etc etc.

    Has anyone actually received any product in hand directly from this company? I don't know of anyone yet that I have heard actually getting any products from them… Yet, again they are more than happy to take your money, both while you are a representative and also as an ex representative of their company as in my case… (Their failed attempt.) sighted above.

    I really think that DNA has headed into some deep waters with a boat that has a few holes in it at this point, because they just didn't check the condition of the vessel prior to launch.

    Current Cell Phone Offer has a 'refundable' deposit… from what I have read that sounds like a big no no for prepaid and they tied that in with being an active Pro-Affiliate status for 24 months and having the plan or upgraded plan for 24 months as well.

    Data Collection is ripe with privacy issues as posted many times on this forum by yourself and others.

    Advertising Pool… I don't see anyone jumping on board with advertising yet…Looks like they only have some Ad Marketplace ads… basically off brand google ads. I seriously doubt they are going to hit their projections on revenue to pay out to their distributors an 'up to' $2.00 bonus etc. Troy, you have a very popular site it would be interesting to compare your traffic vs. your ad revenue to their traffic and the anticipated revenue they would need to meet their obligations to their distributors to pay out that advertising pool bonus… very interesting.

    I could go on and on.

    I think that they are up to their knees now… time to turn on the bilge pump or turn the ship around and beach that thing!

    I think that there will be some serious issues for these guys in the days and weeks ahead… but what do I know? I'm just a guy that at one point bought their deal! :o)

    Rick Weston

    Future Wireless Millionaire

  14. Rick,

    This is not good at all. I am going to be doing a post this week on this very issue. Several of the new companies are making it "Easy" to upgrade, but are making it "Hard" for distributors to cancel or downgrade, and this is not very ethical from my opinion.

    If a distributor has concerns then let them downgrade of cancel, because until the trust is regained, they will not build anyway.

    Watch for the post.

    Living An Epic Adventure,

    Troy

  15. Troy,

    Another reason to put this company back into scam alerts.

    I canceled my Pro Status with this company back on 4/26/2010 via email as that is the only way to contact them, then after waiting about a week and not being contacted by them I then filed a chargeback to DNA for services not being rendered and products not being provided in a timely manner. Luckily I also had my bank block any future transactions from the company as this is what I received from DNA today….

    ********************

    05/13/2010

    Dear Rick Weston,

    Our system was unable to process a payment for Data Network Affiliates (DNA) account number 110029733 in the amount of $29.97 on 05/12/2010.

    Our attempt/s to charge the amount to your DNA Virtual Account was unsuccessful due to insufficient balances.

    We have also attempted to charge your credit card on file, a Visa ending in 8237. A summary of our attempts to process the payment from your credit card on file follows;

    TrxDate TrxID CardType Last4 ExpDate Amount Message

    5/13/2010 11:07:00 AM 17787 VI 8237 082013 $29.97 This transaction has been declined.

    We will automatically attempt to re-process the transaction in 24 hours. If you do not update your account information immediately, your DNA account may be suspended and all commissions due now and in the future will be forfeited. Time is of the essence in this matter as all forfeited commissions are non-reclaimable.

    Please take one or more of the following actions;

    1.) Have another DNA Affiliate transfer from their respective DNA Virtual Account to your DNA Virtual Account sufficient funds to allow payment to be processed.

    2.) Log into your DNA Back Office and click on Profile Tab and update/add your credit card information to allow payment to be processed. You may also want to contact your credit card company to be sure that the transaction will clear. If we have attempted to charge your card the reason/s for decline may be stated above.

    We thank you in advance for your prompt cooperation in this matter.

    Best Regards,

    The DNA Management Team

    You are receiving this email as part of your DNA membership. To change your email preferences go to Profile Tab in your DNA Back Office. This is an automated message from DNA, please do not reply.

    ********************************************

    Apparently they are not honoring cancellation requests and will continue to draft representatives accounts. Other companies that are famous for doing this would be the "Girl's Gone Wild" organization among others as reported heavily in the last few years. Great job DNA on taking care of your distributors! (You should know by now that I am not supporting this company in any way shape or form by all of my previous postings…. )

    So I guess they will just continue to try and ding my account even though I have canceled with them and even initiated a chargeback from my bank, thankfully they are looking out for me! ;o)

    Rick Weston

    Future Wireless Millionaire

  16. Well… it looks like my wish was granted… DNA announced a health and nutrition line in a recent communication… LOL. How many of these companies do we need?

    I have only deleted the part with my user name and password.

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  17. Leela,

    Another huge issue is that DNA is tying a refund of a deposit for a cell phone plan with the condition of keeping both the plan and your membership as a Pro Affiliate in their MLM compensation plan. The contract that they are currently selling has been confirmed by mlmwirelessnews as a plan from Xtreme Mobile and is a Pre-Paid contract.

    So the apparent issues:

    1. Requiring a deposit on a Pre-paid plan in violation of the Prepaid Act of 2004. (I am looking the the details on this act. If anyone has a link to it please send it to my email or post it here!)

    2. Tying the refund of the deposit to membership in a mlm marketing plan and conditioning for two years of service.

    3. In addition to the deposit requiring an activation fee. While this may not be illegal is sure adds insult to injury.

    Basically this company has not provided a worthwhile product or service to any of its distributors… thus far.

    Products:

    Data Collection… ripe with legal concerns

    Advertising revenue… How many companies are going to align themselves with DNA? DNA is very vague with there up to $2.00 compensation plan in regards to the advertising pool etc. as well

    DNA Sleep System… Really? Magnets to get rid of pain… sorry, not a product many if any people will get really excited about selling especially at a $995 cost or $1295 cost after the current stock is sold.

    Travel Package… sure I guess, but as more companies decide to not deal with MLM Travel companies… bye bye travel package!

    DNA Test Kit… OK… sure…. This is really laughable.

    etc. etc.

    I'm just waiting for them to announce an energy drink or a natural cleaning product next… if they are even in business that long to do so.

  18. The cost difference is because yesterday DNA required a $100 deposit, today it's been LOWERED to ONLY $50. I agree, if this is supposed to be a NO Contract deal – that is wrong, and they should be put back in SCAM ALERT.

  19. Troy,

    Yup, I'm just reporting it as it comes to my attention… I am not an 'expert' in this field either and YES it will be VERY interesting to see what happens with this situation.

    BTW, I love your site and the debates it inspires, both logical and the illogical, but always very entertaining and informative. Hopefully my site will have the same pull… one can only hope right! ;o)

    Rick Weston

    Future Wireless Millionaire

  20. Yeah,

    I'm just reporting it as it comes to my attention… I am not an 'expert' in this field either and YES it will be VERY interesting to see what happens with this situation.

    Rick Weston

    Future Wireless Millionaire

  21. Rick,

    As always you have great posts. Since I am not the wireless expert, it will be interesting to see how things turn out from the wireless regulation side of things.

  22. I must update this.. the total cost on their page to buy this service is $199.75 so either their math is wrong or mine is… either way… whatever still ridiculous and I am just to tired right now to care! LOL.

  23. Troy,

    You might want to consider moving DNA back into the scam alerts section. I am not an attorney, but their first cellular 'product' seems to have some real legal issues.

    Please see the offering below: (When I first wrote about this to mlmwirelessnews the deposit was $100.00.. they have changed course again… midstream.. Par for the course it seems with them.)

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    Here is the plan:

    $39.95 UNLIMITED TALK, TEXT & DATA – USA ONLY

    Available to Pro Affiliates ONLY!

    This is a Service Plan & Phone Combination Purchase.

    For Immediate Release:

    DNA Cellular has just made available our New Unlimited Talk, Text, and Data Plan. Using the Sprint-Nexel Network backbone, this incredible plan is ONLY $39.95/Month with the Samsung M300 Phone. Will ship on or before 05/31/10. This offer ends on 05/14/2010.

    There are a limited quantity of this special service plan contracts available, so don’t wait – secure your contracts NOW!

    Limit is One (1) plan purchase per Pro Affiliate!

    Service Plan Details:

    $39.95/Month ~ Unlimited Talk, Text, & Data Plan

    $4.95/Month ~ Phone Protection

    Covers Lost, Stolen, or Broken Phone. ($30 Deductible.)

    $10.00/Month ~ Taxes & Fees

    Required Phone Details:

    $59.95 ~ Samsung M300

    Width: 1.9 in

    Depth: 0.7 in

    Height: 3.6 in

    Weight: 2.7 oz

    Technology: CDMA2000 1X

    Band: CDMA2000 1X 1900/800

    Polyphonic Ringer: Yes

    Voice Dialing: Yes

    Conference Call: Yes

    Caller ID: Yes

    Alarm Clock: Yes

    Calendar: Yes

    Reminder: Yes

    Wireless Interface: Bluetooth

    Phone Book Capacity: 299 names & numbers

    Short Messaging Service: Yes

    Mobile Email: Yes

    Data/Fax Capability: Yes

    Internet Browser: Yes

    PCS Vision capable: Yes

    Digital Camera: 0.3 megapixels

    Still Image Resolutions: 640 x 480

    Display Resolution: 128 x 160 pixels

    Display (2nd)Resolution: 96 x 96 pixels

    Battery Technology: Lithium ion

    Talk Time: Up to 192 min

    $24.95 ~ One-Time Activation Fee

    $14.95 ~ Tax, Shipping, and Handling

    $50 Refundable Deposit*

    *24 Months of Service Required for deposit refund.

    *24 Months of Active Pro Affiliates Status Required for deposit refund.

    DNA Pro Affiliate may choose to upgrade to any other DNA Cellular plan during the 24 Month term.

    Total cost to get this plan as disclosed on their order page: $204.75

    *****************************************************

    First of all as a Pre-Paid plan they are requiring a $100.00 deposit for the service and according to Eric Collins at http://www.mlmwirelessnews.com that is a violation of the Prepaid act of 2004, which would fall under federal jurisdiction apparently…. whoops! (I have not personally verified this, I will do so and update… Or you can by posting a full article on what seems to be a HUGE act of stupidity by DNA.)

    Then if that is not bad enough they first say the plan is $39.95… but wait there is a $10.00 charge for taxes and fees… so it is really $49.95. Then if that isn't bad enough they are tying the refund of the $50 deposit to being an active DNA Pro Affiliate for 24 months… so in reality a $39.95 plan… wait a $49.95 plan… oh wait add your Pro Affiliate package of $127 plus the monthly… and now you have an almost $80 per month plan that costs $204.75 plus a BBP of $126.97 then $29.97 per month for 2 years to maintain your Pro status so you can get the refund.

    So for someone to get this plan it is $331.72 to start… then $79.92 per month after that if you want to get your $50 deposit back… what the heck? They can't seriously think that this is a good plan to market. All I can think now is that this company has all the earmarks of a huge scam or at the very least a company that is hyping their products and services to bilk their distributors out of millions.

    I guess if the cellular doesn't work the DNA affiliates can go out and sell the magnetic DNA sleep system beds… It looks like Phil "The Pickle" Piccolo has created another instant success/flop… way to go!

    This company changes direction more often than a teenage girl changes clothes before a date… wow!

  24. I see MLMWirelessNews now says Jeff Long, one of DNA's biggest Affiliates has left DNA. Rumors are he'll join either PHP or Global Pros. His reason for leaving they say is that he was tired of being lied to by Phil & George. I wonder how many of his downline will go with him?

  25. Phil Piccolo is at is again with his $100,000 guarantee…. I am trying to dig up where I saw him use this same type of method to convince people that his program was legitimate and I will post the link when I do. I guess Piccolo has a method to his madness that works and gets people onboard… I'd like to know anyone that was paid with one of his guarantees in the past programs he has used it to manipulate people into joining or staying with one of his companies.

    That would be interesting to see…

    This is the email I received today:

    Introducing the $100,000.00 Power Of Free D.N.A. GUARANTEE!

    D.N.A. is the only "MLM FREE WORLD-WIDE" Opportunity.

    YOU JUST SELL FREE – LET D.N.A. DO THE REST…

    *******

    Edited out my user name and password. Everything else is unaltered.

    *******

    THE DNA $100,000.00 GUARANTEE… YOU BUILD A 10 x 6 "100% FREE"… IF YOU DO NOT EARN $100,000.00 WITHIN 12 MONTHS AFTER IT IS BUILT "D.N.A. WILL PAY YOU THE DIFFERENCE"… EVEN IF THEY ALL QUIT… WE ARE SO SURE OF THIS THAT ONCE YOU BUILD IT… WE WILL DEPOSIT $100,000.00 IN A SPECIAL ACCOUNT WITH YOUR NAME ON IT…

    "WHAT IS A 10 x 6 it is the POWER OF TEN by SIX LEVELS"

    THE POWER OF "TEN FREE"

    FIVE "FREE" STEPS TO MEGA SUCCESS

    #1. Sign up for FREE…

    #2. Sponsor 10 or more to Sign up for FREE…

    #3. Teach your 10 to Sponsor 10 or more for FREE…

    #4. Duplicate this up to SIX LEVELS (We Pay To Ten)…

    #5. Everyone enters data on 20 car tags…

    #6. YOU ARE MEGA FINANCIALLY FREE FOR LIFE…

    WORK BACKWARDS:

    How do you get to step #4 is to do #1 to #3…

    How do you get to step #3 is to do #1 & #2…

    SINCE EVERYONE CAN DO #1 & #2…

    THEN #3 & #4 IS A WALK IN THE PARK…

    It may take 4 to 6 months to build the advertising pool but you build free and invest up to 1 hour a day up to 4 days a month imputing 20 car tags and you are DONE… GAME OVER…

    SPECIAL GUEST "SUNDAY" CALL

    DON KESSLER "THE DNA TEST"

    Sunday 8:30PM EST Guest Speaker

    712-432-0075 PIN# is 195698#

    TOPICS IN THIS E-MAIL

    – TWO BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES REACH OUT TO D.N.A.

    – INTRODUCING THE DNA "LIFE SAVING" TEST KIT

    – INTERNATIONAL DATA ENTRY NOW OPEN

    – D.N.A. TO BUY INT'T D.S. COMPANY W/1.2 MILLION AFFILIATES

    – ALL PROS = FREE HEALTH BENEFITS VALUED @ $19.95 MONTHLY

    RESIDUAL GRANDFATHERING FROM DAY 1

    AND BINARY ROLL UP HAS BEEN EXTENDED

    GO PRO AFFILIATE BY MONDAY 5/03/2010

    Midnight Pacific Standard Time (California)

    to prevent your BINARY ROLL UP!

    02 Days and 12 Hours LEFT

    +++++++++++

    TWO BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES REACH OUT TO D.N.A.

    +++++++++++

    Not ONE but TWO separate BILLIONAIRES reach out to "D.N.A."

    This week the whole D.N.A. management Team met in NYC and shook hands with not one but TWO BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES who wish to do BIG BUSINESS with the current 125,000 soon to be 250,000 D.N.A. Affiliates…

    ++++++++++

    INTRODUCING THE DNA "LIFE SAVING" TEST KIT

    ++++++++++

    One of the BILLION DOLLAR companies produce a product which will be exclusive to D.N.A. and it will actually be a D.N.A. Testing Kit. It was designed and produced by another current BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY currently doing business in 76 countries. It is a simple D.N.A. TEST KIT which will tell you things about yourself you do not nor could you ever know about your body on your own.

    The results from such a D.N.A. Test will be very helpful when designing special nutritional products and suggested foods for you to consume or not to consume. We believe this product will attract every Doctor, Chiropractor and Health Practitioner to want to become a D.N.A. Affiliate.

    PRE-TEST results can tell if a person may be on their way to getting particular diseases. UNDERSTAND THAT THE DOUBLE HELIX IS A BLUEPRINT TO A PERSON'S LIFE… Now imagine what that information could mean for someone to head off a disease that without this D.N.A. Test Kit could not know it was headed their way. Talk about the #1 Preventive Disease Product in THE WORLD.

    DIET IS CURRENTLY THE USA's #1 PROBLEM

    Nobel Prizes Involving (directly or indirectly) DNA (1)

    Beginning in 1910 research on DNA has directly or indirectly been responsible for 19 Nobel Prizes. The Noble Prize site provides links to all of the Nobel Prizes in all categories. The information includes various forms of press releases, biographical sketches of the award winners, and copies of the various speeches made by the Nobel Presentation Committee and the award winner(s). The links below are to the individual awards site.

    READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE:

    http://library.buffalo.edu/asl/exhibits/dna/

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,…

    http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,110103021

    EXPECTED DNA CONNECTS SALES PRICE $149

    EXPECTED DNA CONNECTS COMMISSION $49 per 1st level sale/buy

    EXPECTED DNA PROS EARN $2 up to TEN Levels…

    (A 10 STAR PRO WILL EARN $10 on TENTH Levels Sales)

    THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BETTER TIME TO GO 10 STAR…

    ++++++++++

    INTERNATIONAL DATA ENTRY NOW OPEN

    ++++++++++

    Please note you can not put USA Addresses using Int'l Module and visa versa. If your country has any issues please contact DNA Support

    ++++++++++

    D.N.A. TO BUY INT'T D.S. COMPANY W/1.2 MILLION AFFILIATES

    ++++++++++

    DNA has started negotiations with an International Direct Sales Company with over ONE MILLION SALES Affiliates. Expected completion July 2010. Upon completion D.N.A. plans to divide all the sales affiliates to be personally sponsored by all the current and future DNA PRO AFFILIATES as follows:

    PRO Affiliate will get 5 Direct Sales Affiliates

    1 Star PRO will get 10 Direct Sales Affiliates

    3 Star PRO will get 15 Direct Sales Affiliates

    5 Star PRO will get 20 Direct Sales Affiliates

    10 Star PRO will get 25 Direct Sales Affiliates

    Diamond PRO will get 50 Direct Sales Affiliates

    Black Diamond PRO will get 75 Direct Sales Affiliates

    Royal Black Diamond PRO will get 100 Direct Sales Affiliates

    THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BETTER TIME TO GO PRO…

    ++++++++++

    ALL PROS = FREE HEALTH BENEFITS VALUED @ $19.95 MONTHLY

    ++++++++++

    USA ONLY

    There will be 3 DNA Health Benefit Plans:

    DNA Heath Benefits Plan for $19.95 Monthly (PROS FREE)

    DNA Heath Benefits Plus Plan for $29.95 Monthly (PROS $10)

    DNA Heath Benefits Plus A Lot Plan for $39.95 Monthly (PROS $20)

    DNA Heath Benefits Plus A Lot More Plan for ???? Monthly (PROS ????) (will include accidental and life plans…)

    LIVE CONFERENCE CALLS

    712-432-0075

    PIN# is 195698#

    D.N.A. Opportunity Calls

    Monday to Thursday – 3PM & 8:30PM EST

    Friday & Saturday 3pm EST

    D.N.A. Training with Q&A Call

    Monday to Thursday – 10PM EST

    Saturday Training at NOON EST

    SPECIAL: Sunday Night Training 10PM EST

    SPECIAL GUEST "SUNDAY" CALL

    DON KESSLER "THE DNA TEST"

    Sunday 8:30PM EST Guest Speaker

    712-432-0075 PIN# is 195698#

    THE DNA $100,000.00 GUARANTEE… YOU BUILD A 10 x 6 "100% FREE"… IF YOU DO NOT EARN $100,000.00 WITHIN 12 MONTHS AFTER IT IS BUILT "D.N.A. WILL PAY YOU THE DIFFERENCE"… EVEN IF THEY ALL QUIT… WE ARE SO SURE OF THIS THAT ONCE YOU BUILD IT… WE WILL DEPOSIT $100,000.00 IN A SPECIAL ACCOUNT WITH YOUR NAME ON IT…

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  27. It really amazes me at the number of people who have no values these days. If there is one thing I've learned from following this for over a year, it is that Chris Greco will not sacrifice his values to make money. Phil Piccollo filed a DBA with Broward County to do business under another name, Warren Anthony. And the idea of becoming an MVNO overnight is simply hilarious. DNA is Global Verge on steroids! Shame on you George!

  28. Real Source,

    Sun Tzu wrote if first in the Art of War, and Mario Puzo made it famous in The Godfather… "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Read my next post!

  29. Troy, when are you finally going to realize what kind of person Chris Greco really is and stop defending him. He has repeatedly screwed over company's and will continue. He is poison to all of us in the Network Marketing Industry. I have said before time will tell. I give DNA credit for catching on early to his lies. Stay tuned for his next venture which he will screw people over again, and Troy if you keep bashing Company's that fell victim to him and keep supporting this guy, he will then finally destroy your reputation. Real Source

  30. So intentionally giving reps the incorrect information about who you are (because that name will cause controversy and possibly turn people away) is not fraud? Not disclosing his position in the company amounts to a cover up. I'm sure he did it in a way that covers his butt, but it is unethical. All of this is just my opinion. As is My opinion that he has ruined Georges credibility. Sad day in MLM.

  31. Hi Troy, have you seen the email today 4/26/2010 from DNA? If not, it 's very interesting indeed. It seems George has come clean and admitted that Phil is heavily involved in DNA and he goes on to defined him as a friend. Finally there is a bit of truth and transparency. Now everyone can make a decision to stay or leave based on truth. I would just like to know if they are such good friends and Phil is a worthy friend, why did George take this long to admit it?

  32. Hi Troy,

    Here's the latest News

    Addressing the allegation of D.N.A. Affiliates raiding the Liberty International WOW downline, this is another untrue comment. It would be impossible to have 120,000 Affiliates (from D.N.A.) who would not know any WOW Affiliates, so there was a lot of discussion in the field from both companies. There is a very open relationship and mutual respect for Randy Jeffers the owner of WOW Mobile and myself.

    In regard to Phil Piccolo, it is no secret that Phil Piccolo is a lead consultant to the D.N.A. corporate team and we are happy to have him on our team. As far as my D.N.A. Corporate team is concern, we do not judge people by what others say about a person, especially on the wild wild west of the Internet, but by the content of their character and their accomplishments. We hired Mr. Piccolo for his genius ability to develop the best compensation plan for our affiliates and his incredible leadership and customer relationship ability. I have also known Mr. Piccolo personally for years and know him as a man of integrity and have watched him help 3 different companies reach the billion dollar level. He is an industry expert that goes back 34 years and we are proud to have him on our team to spear head us to a million affiliates by years end.

    We were blinded by excitement and did not believe the rumors that flooded into D.N.A. about Mr. Greco. Not only from hundreds of affiliates but from other owners of companies. We thought at first they were just jealous of our newest, greatest and latest deal with Mr. Greco. However now with personal experience along with written, documented facts backed up with recorded conference calls, e-mail and voice mail messages. We can truly say that Mr. Greco is a fraud and we have cut all ties with him. We are also looking at all legal options to protect D.N.A. from this man including to see if there are any criminal and civil charges that can be explored.

    We plan to turn over all of our evidence to the proper authorities. Our intent is to make sure all of our D.N.A. affiliates are fully protected from unethical characters like this man.

    We also apologize for Mr. Greco's crude language on our conference calls. You have our word that this will never happen again. That anyone we expose to our D.N.A. Family will be 100% checked out and vetted by a very high standard.

    Again, we are very excited about being in the cellular industry and we are pleased with the development of D.N.A. Cellular becoming it’s own MVNO in full control of our wireless future! Stay tune for some more great news in the days to come.

    Aim High!

    George Madiou

    CEO and Co-founder
    Data Network Affiliates
    This message was sent to you because you or someone you know has registered an account with DataNetworkAffiliates.com using this e-mail address. If you believe this message was sent to you in error, please contact a DataNetworkAffiliates.com representative.

  33. Hi Troy,

    Here is the latest news,..from an actual email I got today..Please let people know your two cents about this email.

    From the desk of George Madiou, CEO, Data Network Affiliates

    To all D.N.A. Affiliates

    D.N.A. Breaks All Associations with Chris Greco.

    It is important at this point in time that I address an issue with our D.N.A. PRO Leaders and all of our D.N.A. Family Of Affiliates.

    GOOD NEWS #1: D.N.A. not only has entered into the cell phone industry, but we are excited about becoming one of the great companies within this industry.

    GOOD NEWS #2: Every person who purchased a cell phone or service from us will be happy with an incredible offer on MAY 1st, 2010 that will not be available to anyone else. We guarantee you will be 100% happy with the D.N.A. Corporate decision on how to turn two unfortunate events this past week from lemons into lemonade.

    There is real excitement in the air here at D.N.A. especially at DNA Cellular. 3 weeks ago D.N.A. was not in the cellular phone industry and had no plans on getting into the cell phone industry.

    We had a call came in from one of our PRO Leaders and asked if we would consider the cellular industry for one of our divisions. She had information that a BIG "MVNO" VENDOR (a reseller of cell service) was not happy where he was and that he not only could bring in the best and lowest prices but that he could bring in thousands of affiliates into our program. We agreed to meet with him.

    After meeting Mr. Chris Greco, everything seemed to be too good to be true. The names he was tossing around and the prices he said he could deliver were just unbelievable. Let's face it a $10 a month unlimited talk and text plan, a $19.95 a month unlimited talk & text with 20 MB of DATA plan, were two unbelievable products that got us very excited, and we knew it would get our affiliates thrilled also. The excitement was contagious and we immediately put our full I.T. Division along with our entire Web team on the DNA Cellular Project.

    Well the dream turned into a nightmare. After selling hundreds, or should we say thousands of cellular agreements, Mr. Greco said he could not deliver either product. He stated that Sprint had terminated his reseller agreement. In fact further investigation on our part, of Mr. Greco and his so called $10 and $19.95 monthly service agreements, we found that there are no such service plans to be found by any carrier, anywhere on the planet, by any company in the industry. He also said his good friend of 20 years Mr. Dan Hesse CEO of Sprint found out that "DNA Affiliates" were raiding the Liberty International, WOW Mobile downline groups. He also stated that Mr. Dan Hesse found out that "Phil Piccolo" is the lead consultant to the corporate team.

    Mr. Greco even provided what seemed to be personal e-mails directly from Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint to DNA. D.N.A. even received an e-mail supposedly from Dan Hesse of Sprint. This entire series of correspondence immediately seemed fraudulent. We plan on contacting Mr Dan Hesse because we at D.N.A. feel that there may be foul play with all of these so called Dan Hesse communications that are going around.

    How would the D.N.A. management be fooled like this? When you believe you are talking to the CEO of Sprint, when you believe you are receiving legitimate email communication with the top officer of Sprint, it's easy to be fooled at first. Thankfully there was enough red flags that this foolishness was quickly exposed for what it was.

  34. In regard to Phil Piccolo, it is no secret that Phil Piccolo is a lead consultant to the D.N.A. corporate team and we are happy to have him on our team. As far as my D.N.A. Corporate team is concern, we do not judge people by what others say about a person, especially on the wild wild west of the Internet, but by the content of their character and their accomplishments. We hired Mr. Piccolo for his genius ability to develop the best compensation plan for our affiliates and his incredible leadership and customer relationship ability. I have also known Mr. Piccolo personally for years and know him as a man of integrity and have watched him help 3 different companies reach the billion dollar level. He is an industry expert that goes back 34 years and we are proud to have him on our team to spear head us to a million affiliates by years end.

    We were blinded by excitement and did not believe the rumors that flooded into D.N.A. about Mr. Greco. Not only from hundreds of affiliates but from other owners of companies. We thought at first they were just jealous of our newest, greatest and latest deal with Mr. Greco. However now with personal experience along with written, documented facts backed up with recorded conference calls, e-mail and voice mail messages. We can truly say that Mr. Greco is a fraud and we have cut all ties with him. We are also looking at all legal options to protect D.N.A. from this man including to see if there are any criminal and civil charges that can be explored.

    We plan to turn over all of our evidence to the proper authorities. Our intent is to make sure all of our D.N.A. affiliates are fully protected from unethical characters like this man.

    We also apologize for Mr. Greco's crude language on our conference calls. You have our word that this will never happen again. That anyone we expose to our D.N.A. Family will be 100% checked out and vetted by a very high standard.

    Again, we are very excited about being in the cellular industry and we are pleased with the development of D.N.A. Cellular becoming it’s own MVNO in full control of our wireless future! Stay tune for some more great news in the days to come.

    Aim High!

    George Madiou

    CEO and Co-founder
    Data Network Affiliates "

    Honestly this whole email is like a person calling someone else a liar or a thief who is in fact the liar or the thief themselves…

    Interesting stuff, I guess we will see what unfolds.

  35. Here is the entire email I received today from DNA Corporate: (Read it carefully… lol)

    "From the desk of George Madiou, CEO, Data Network Affiliates

    To all D.N.A. Affiliates

    D.N.A. Breaks All Associations with Chris Greco.

    It is important at this point in time that I address an issue with our D.N.A. PRO Leaders and all of our D.N.A. Family Of Affiliates.

    GOOD NEWS #1: D.N.A. not only has entered into the cell phone industry, but we are excited about becoming one of the great companies within this industry.

    GOOD NEWS #2: Every person who purchased a cell phone or service from us will be happy with an incredible offer on MAY 1st, 2010 that will not be available to anyone else. We guarantee you will be 100% happy with the D.N.A. Corporate decision on how to turn two unfortunate events this past week from lemons into lemonade.

    There is real excitement in the air here at D.N.A. especially at DNA Cellular. 3 weeks ago D.N.A. was not in the cellular phone industry and had no plans on getting into the cell phone industry.

    We had a call came in from one of our PRO Leaders and asked if we would consider the cellular industry for one of our divisions. She had information that a BIG "MVNO" VENDOR (a reseller of cell service) was not happy where he was and that he not only could bring in the best and lowest prices but that he could bring in thousands of affiliates into our program. We agreed to meet with him.

    After meeting Mr. Chris Greco, everything seemed to be too good to be true. The names he was tossing around and the prices he said he could deliver were just unbelievable. Let's face it a $10 a month unlimited talk and text plan, a $19.95 a month unlimited talk & text with 20 MB of DATA plan, were two unbelievable products that got us very excited, and we knew it would get our affiliates thrilled also. The excitement was contagious and we immediately put our full I.T. Division along with our entire Web team on the DNA Cellular Project.

    Well the dream turned into a nightmare. After selling hundreds, or should we say thousands of cellular agreements, Mr. Greco said he could not deliver either product. He stated that Sprint had terminated his reseller agreement. In fact further investigation on our part, of Mr. Greco and his so called $10 and $19.95 monthly service agreements, we found that there are no such service plans to be found by any carrier, anywhere on the planet, by any company in the industry. He also said his good friend of 20 years Mr. Dan Hesse CEO of Sprint found out that "DNA Affiliates" were raiding the Liberty International, WOW Mobile downline groups. He also stated that Mr. Dan Hesse found out that "Phil Piccolo" is the lead consultant to the corporate team.

    Mr. Greco even provided what seemed to be personal e-mails directly from Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint to DNA. D.N.A. even received an e-mail supposedly from Dan Hesse of Sprint. This entire series of correspondence immediately seemed fraudulent. We plan on contacting Mr Dan Hesse because we at D.N.A. feel that there may be foul play with all of these so called Dan Hesse communications that are going around.

    How would the D.N.A. management be fooled like this? When you believe you are talking to the CEO of Sprint, when you believe you are receiving legitimate email communication with the top officer of Sprint, it's easy to be fooled at first. Thankfully there was enough red flags that this foolishness was quickly exposed for what it was.

    Addressing the allegation of D.N.A. Affiliates raiding the Liberty International WOW downline, this is another untrue comment. It would be impossible to have 120,000 Affiliates (from D.N.A.) who would not know any WOW Affiliates, so there was a lot of discussion in the field from both companies. There is a very open relationship and mutual respect for Randy Jeffers the owner of WOW Mobile and myself.

  36. Troy,

    I also like to take Sunday's off for family as well, yesterday was an exception for me as I had so many of my team that needed the answers to what is going on with DNA and Chris and his new company. I was up until 1am working with my group and it is now 7am pst… been up since 5:30 this morning and will continue this kind of pace until everything is in place for the new company.

    I listened to the whole conference call from DNA last night, basically they are saying:

    To paraphrase:

    "DNA's objective is to have a cellular division."
    "DNA intends to open DNA Cellular Stores."
    "If DNA can't provide the $10 and $19.95 plans purchased you will receive a full refund."
    "Go Pro, Pro's get all the answers… Keep looking for those communications from Corporate…." (I'm a Pro… no answers…. no communication from Corporate… Sure seems like they want everyone's money though!)

    When asked if Chris was still with the company… several times… the answer was:

    "I can not go into our relationship with Chris Greco, email support" (The support email is a gmail account… nice! You own your own domain and don't even use it for your email…)

    Basically I came away from last nights conference call feeling like DNA has no place to put the $10 and $19.95 plans that they have already 'sold' and that they have nothing in place in regards to cellular in general or opening up stores. I already know directly from Chris's mouth via a conference call that he broke away from DNA and at this point DNA is really deceiving it's distributors by not coming clean. However, I think that maybe their intention is to keep a max exodus from happening right now so that they can try and get another cellular program in place to switch everyone's focus on prior to making an official announcement. I can see their reasoning, it is flawed, but I can see what they are possibly thinking. They would be better served and they would have more respect from their distributors if they just came clean and let everyone know exactly what is going on rather than letting the rumor mill disclose bits and pieces of what is actually happening. In any endeavor you are much better off breaking bad news as the company rather than letting outsiders or those with partial info that might be incorrect.

    As for Chris doing work with DNA, my understanding is that he has some contractual obligations to fulfill with DNA which he will do unless they do anything that would cause them to breach the contract. I personally don't think that this company is run very well as the communication is highly disorganized, products are not being provided… for example I thought I was going to be able to purchase a travel package after getting my BBP to go Pro… they keep saying it is coming… yet I was led to believe it was already available… so it is highly likely that they will breach the contract in short order if they haven't done so already.

    OH! Here is the big kicker for everyone that thought they were going to get $2.00 for 20 tags collected and for each 20 their reps collected… NOPE… You get $2 for your tags then up to $2 for tags your reps collect….(I turned in tags… 20 of them to test… shows I am qualified… but with zero revenue for tags pending…) depending on advertising revenue from users being forced to view ads between each individual tag enter… Pros included.

    What I have noticed is that DNA loves to put out information on a comp plan, then change it, then add other pieces to the plan without full disclosure etc. For example I just learned last night that the 3X5 matrix is for pros only and only for the cellular division… "Pros will be placed in the 3X5 in order of upgrade… sometime… when we launch the cellular division… later in May is the goal… but you will get a refund if we can't provide the phones or plans… etc. etc. "

    Fun stuff, personally I am getting a lot of quiet enjoyment from listening to the conference calls by DNA and how they are sidestepping everything. It would be nice if they just MANNED UP and told everyone what is going on… in the meantime though it makes for some amusement…. Maybe they will add a health and nutrition product next and launch it sometime next year or I should say intend to launch… go Pro, get all the answers! ;o)

    Troy, I just found this site a few weeks ago… nice work btw!

  37. As most folks know I try and take Sunday's completely off for family. However, yesterday it seems others were working around the clock. From emails I have received there were all kinds of conference calls held and emails flying.

    I have emails from all parties involved, and it is hard for me to tell who is doing what.

    I think Chris is on his way or is already in Florida opening a DNA Wireless Store. However, I also have an email from Chris distancing himself from DNA. But… I also have an email from DNA where Chris is stating he is bringing inventory to Florida.

    Today, we will get to the bottom of all these issues.

  38. Troy,

    I'm on a conference call for DNA right now… pretty funny stuff… Everyone wants to know if Chris is involved… The answer was… I am not able to answer that, email corporate… oh and btw… pro's will be given the information… So I guess people need to upgrade to Pro to get the real info… lol… I'm a Pro and DNA has said NOTHING to us about Chris and the situation with the cellular programs.

    They are still saying that they will have cellular to sell etc. etc. So who knows at this point if they will or not. Very evasive with the answers…

  39. Troy,

    I was on the conference call with Chris for his new company on Thursday and can get you the recording info if you want to hear exactly what is going on. DNA basically went back on their word and implemented a 3X5 capped commission ($1000) matrix rather than the 3X9 matrix Chris had agreed on with them, which is why he left because he believes that DNA is essentially 'screwing' its reps.

    I am personally going to file a chargeback for the fees that I have paid as the company is in my opinion lying about many things… I was one of the first 5000 pros that were given the option to order the 10$ and 19.95 plans… They capped it at 100 per pro, then 10 then 4… Supposedly they sold out in less than a day… I don't know ANYONE (Pros') that actually ordered or was able to order a phone from them. Now on their conference call on Saturday they are speaking in future tense phrases… we will have, we will be etc.. etc. I just don't think that they know what they are doing or how they are going to pull this off… Especially when they make statements in their communications that wireless will be free in the near future like magicjack and that we should focus on our tag collection activities…

    Strange things are afoot with DNA….

    Rick

  40. Leela,

    I am in Chris's new company, which he is an owner of and they are using a 3X9 matrix to build the sales organization. There are some really big players involved in this and I guarantee that some other companies are going to get 'stepped on' when this launches on the 15th of May officially. I believe Chris is a man of integrity and has a real vision for his company…. PS if you don't believe he is opening his own gig… take a look at the http://www.activationkingwireless.com site… it is down due to the change over to the new company and the consolidation that is occurring.

    If anyone wants to contact me directly they can and I will answer any questions that I can, I am just not going to post anything public about the company itself until Chris and his team decide to do so.

    I was a rep in DNA, then my up-line got inside information about Chris leaving the company and I was able to join his new one as a founding member or whatever you want to call it. I was involved in a conference call where Chris specifically stated that DNA reneged on their agreement as to how distributors were going to be paid, which is why he left the company to just do his own…. GAME OVER DNA! Don't screw the distributors guys… duh! My understanding is that Chris is still contractually obligated in some form or fashion to provide products for DNA, however the products are going to be offered at a better price via the new company and there are so many shady things going on with DNA , which will likely cause them to violate a clause in their contract with Chris. Like I personally am getting ZERO dollars for the tags that I entered… and I am a Pro with DNA currently… soon to be a charged back transaction as I believe they are up to no good at this point.

  41. There are a lot of info already on the net for folks to follow. Once we have 100% facts on this issue we will post.

  42. I've never met either Phil or Warren. However, I am looking for any valid documentation to show Piccolo has committed a crime, been charged with fraud inside or outside of the MLM profession, or has had any regulatory agency investigated him and found him guilty of any of the information I have read on the internet.

    So, if you run across anything please send it our direction.

    I will ask George Madiou about this question. I have heard rumors, Piccolo was consulted on the compensation plan in the formation stages of the company, and my two friends Rod Cook and Ted Nuyten have both written in-depth articles on Piccolo. You might find something at MLMWatchdog.com or BusinessForHome.org.

  43. WOW is it true that Warren Anthony is Phil Piccolo ? They sure look alike, I am a DNA Rep, and if this is trueThen I want no prt of this company.

  44. A friend of mine that's in DNA & keeps me updated said that on yesterday afternoons Q&A call someone asked if Cris was still with DNA, or if he had left to go with another telecom company. The host kind of he-hawed around saying he wasn't aware of that, although that wa really a question for Corporate to answer, and the caller should email Corporate Support for an answer. Then someone in the background said only "I'm here", and the host then said Well, there's Cris, so that pretty much answers your question. Only thing, my friend has been on calls with Chris before, and his comment was "I'm not sure that was really Chris's voice, but he didn't say enough to be sure either way". But my friend did say there's been NO mention of Chris at all in any emails or calls since last weekend (18-19), and his DNA Cellular website has been reduced to just a main page, all plans & phones have been removed as of Tue (4/21). So questions are out there as to "What happened to Chris?"

  45. You know I herd a rumor that Warren Anthony isPhil Piccolo. Can you verify this?

  46. This is a great question. I have not heard any official info from DNA. As a matter of fact the last update I had was Friday, and DNA corporate stated Chris was heading their way to open a new retail store.

    Now, we all know how fast things can change, and I have been offline all day. So let me put some feelers out and see if I can get some type of official notice.

  47. Troy, what happened with DNA and Chris Greco? While Chris was apart of the company there were actual cellular products and services. DNA cellular plans and phones have now disappeared on the site. I too find all of this very interesting. Doesn't look promising. They talk a good game but we have all heard that before.

  48. Troy,

    Well that marriage sure didn't last long. Somebody must be taking lessons from Elizabeth Taylor. Wonder what excuse will be given for that one? DNA, I don't think anyone is going to blame you guys. That's Ok though because the next marriage has just been formed. Maybe this time they will be offering a $10 Unlimited talk, text, data and trips to Disney World. Ok, Kool-Aid drinkers, how many of you are going to be drinking? The heck with this MLM stuff, I think we should all just buy stock in Kool-aid. For all the folks that are really looking for a legitamate telecom MLM, one with INTEGRITY, just do your homework because there is at least one of them out there. For the ones that are so gullable, please wake up. Regardless of what you may choose to do, I do wish you all the best. Troy, there sure isn't a dull moment in your life is there? Keep up the good work!

  49. I never ordered one and told my reps not to upgrade until our comp-plan was up and ready for everyone to start. A couple did because they wanted to order the $10 or $20 phones. I think DNA should refund their money, because that is the only reason they upgraded. I thing anyone who upgraded to purchase phones or service, should request their money back, because I don't think you will be able to get either phones or service from DNA. I do have a free site to get a phone free with activation.

  50. How can a deal be pulled when the deal never existed? So who's fault is it? We both know! I have never thrown the word "scam" around but when things like this happen, just what are people that aren't Kool-Aid drinkers suppose to think? Come on! Why can't people have integrity? The telecom industry is plenty big for all of us to do it the "right" way and for all of us to make money. I would rather have leaders that have integrity take however long they have to take to do it right. We have too many people that will say and do anything to get as much money as they can before they disappear. Wow, could that be considered the "s" word? Thank god I am not a Kool-Aid drinker. And yes, I know there are a number of MLM"s that are ran with integrity and I have found one. Good luck and best wishes to all.

  51. While at this date and time this has been answered (the deal apparently with Sprint is off, but I think many others conspired to get that to take place and I could be off base), I think since Chris has made his number and email known several times on the calls or how to find that information, this question would have been better served to be sent or asked to him directly first rather than thrown out there on this forum and then have the answer posted or the question asked her perhaps if nothing was answered from him or the company within a few days of asking.

  52. Again I don't think anyone got scammed, I think things out of DNA''s control made the deal get pulled. I personally think somehow people that didn't like what was going on with the pricing and got nervous somehow contributed to this happening, either way not the company's fault and they didn't scam anyone. For people to come out and call scam without knowing the facts, it is unprofessional. And if the deals got pulled or even if the company changed their mind on how many at that price to let go, a scam that does not make.

    Fact is DNA for whatever reason could no longer offer that deal, no fault of theirs, so let's not get things stirred up without facts.

  53. The $10 and $19 deals were exciting and many people were pumped on them coming, and of course we are all frustrated to see them go so quickly, but I don't think that was a fault of DNA's. Nobody seems to mention the other nice packages they put together, so they don't have the sprint deal anymore, many got involved and were excited about DNA long before the sprint deal came on board, and hey the other deals they have on the table are awesome. It causes concern that they had this deal off the table, but nonetheless they have great deals, many companys have deals fall through every day and we don't call them scams.

    People aren't getting paid on the upgrade money per say, they are getting paid on the Business Builder Package to go Pro, not different than the dozens of other companies out there that do it.

    So why focus on the one deal that's gone and not the good stuff that's left? Why say people are having money taking out of their pocket and being ripped off when people are paying to join a business if they go Pro and people are getting paid and bonuses being paid? Why publically ask questions on a public forum within hours of things happening rather than go to the company or wait for the company to announce something?

  54. With lots of people earning income from DNA and having received it in a timely fashion, some who have done very little work, the 3 $1000 bonus earners and the 10 $100 runnerup bonuses (which were never put out there as something to be given but DNA did) and no I am not one of the winners, I don't see DNA as ripping off anyonel

    DNA is a business just like any other MLM out there, you pay, you work and you try to make mo ney, things change, comp plans adjusted, systems overload, products fall through or mfg.'s fall through, it happens, but to say it's a scam or their ripping people off isn't warranted that I can see at all. And while there are some who may have upgraded or who are free who haven't earned anything yet, hey that's no different than the other thousands of mlm's out there, sometimes you get involved pay your dues and sometimes people do well and sometimes they don't.

    I think DNA is in this for the long haul and haven't seen anything they have done or not done yet as showing they are just a scam and ripping folks off.

  55. If the Spring Deal was pulled as Doug says or if they sold out, that isn't a fault of Grecos or DNA's in my eyes, but something uncontrollable and perhaps other things or people made that happen to cause it to be pulled. But that doesn't make it a scam in any means, Seriously, if a local store was having a great sale or a loss leader to get you in and you went and they didn't have the offer anymore as they sold out and they didn't offer rainchecks but the salesman showed you other great deals, would you call it a scam, and I think many are making posts speculating and without facts, as I know people did order phones, so comments are being made without the background work. Many people havfe huge binaries but they cannot check all those people, I know some who have 10's of thousands in the binary and only a handful in their unilevel to be able to check to see who could order phones, looks like people looking for the negative jumping the gun here.

  56. I don't think DNA is a scam, there are concerns, but I don't see anyone who had money taken and the company ran, many earned and received commissions. Agreed on alot of hype in the emails, but take it or leave it. I agree with Partners comments that many things on this board are being discussed or asked publicly and it is very unbecoming and unprofessional. I see people throwing the word scam around lightly and that is sad, many just looking for the worst. The stuff on data entry pay based on the advertising pools (which we knew) was in the latest email, I prefer waiting on explanations rather than posting it out here on this forum in a negative light.

  57. Emails from DNA said the phones would be shipped by the 1st week in May in the email, I'd wait before making comments. As for financial dreams, I know of quite a few who DNA have been helped by the income they've received from DNA, they paid commissions each and every time and on time. No mention here either of the 3 $1000 bonuses that were just earned by 3 lucky people for the most tag entries, you know they didn't have to do that. Or the fact that they gave 10 people (runnerups) $100 for the most tag entries and that wasn't something they said they'd do.

  58. It is sad to see what some of these companies have done and are continually doing. It just makes it harder for the ones that are actually doing it the right way (and there are ones that are doing it right). Competition is always a good thing as long as it is truely competition. Deceit, lies, fraud which are all due to GREED is what gives this industry its bad reputation. Troy, I do salute you for doing what you do to police this industry. We need more people like you doing what you do. Thank goodness there are still people out there that have integrity.

  59. Doug,

    You bring up some great concerns. Having talked to George today, I believe a few hours may be a little short of learning the whole story. It may be first of the week or even the middle of the week. However, like you we are watching things very closely.

    Caution is great advice.

  60. Jerry,

    Great comment. We are watching closely and I had a long talk with George today. We have set time limited on seeing if things continue to move forward in a positive direction for the distributors.

    Now that money is being taken from distributors at the PRO level, we are keeping a close eye on the launch dates that have been published.

  61. GNH,

    I had a great call with George today. We have more to talk about and it all goes right, I'll do an update on DNA by the weekend.

  62. Steve,

    Thank you for your comment.

    I don't think it is the fact people are drinking anyone's Kool-Aid. I think it is the fact people are looking at the big picture of what DNA corporate is sharing more than Chris Greco. Now I have to admit the Jury is still out on if DNA can pull off the big vision they have laid out.

    Steve, if you have done your homework and have viable information which can be validated, then please share it publicly or privately. Although we are watching the MLM Wireless niche, we also habe several other MLM niches we are reviewing at this time.

    I will be putting up a new post today on the MLM Wireless Wars, but it has more to do with a huge issue ALL companies are facing more than any one company.

  63. George (Madiou), it's time for the CEO of Data Network Affiliates to answer the questions. Many of those still involved in DNA are hanging around because of you. MLM Helpdesk is just one of the sites where you can clear the air, now. Teleconferences are not enough, you need to let the public know about the current status of DNA, and that would help the growth of DNA… provided of course the news you have is good news. Can't speak for Troy, but I'd be surprised if he wouldn't be interested in an immediate interview with the CEO of DNA. Put out the fires, George, or get out while you can. Would hate to see you auger in.

  64. I have just loved reading about all the people that have received the $10 unlimited talk and text and just how great DNA and Chris Greco are. Wow!! I also just love how so many people fell for the crap that Chris was putting out. Sam, maybe you should have stayed where you were? Bonnie too as well as others? I am sorry that so many of you started drinking the Chris Greco Kool-Aid. You see, I did my homework and I know better than to drink the Kool-Aid. I truely do wish you and others the best as it is not your fault there are people in this world that will say anything to take our money from us. Goodluck and best wishes. One more thing. Troy, please do what people count on you to do! Please!

  65. So….. Did you get your$10 phone???? LOL Do you know of ANYONE who received a $10 or even $20 phone??? Another BIG LOL Good luck on making your financial dreams come true with DNA! Has DNA made a difference for your family (other than sucking your money from you)? They have have already proven how ethical they are. If you care about your credibility DO NOT suggest anyone to "go pro". Troy, if you don't place DNA back on the scam alert you must be getting a kick back from Phil.

  66. I would rather not say names. This person is a good man caught up in a fire storm who is very close to the top. You will see the whole story unfold in the coming hours. Follow the information or the lack of information about the 10 and $19.00 deals on the web site over the next couple of days. It was mentioned again on the call last night. Listen carefully to the live Q&A sessions on the training calls.

    I want everyone to understand I don't want any company to fail. I just don't want to see any more innocent people spend their hard earned money until the dust settles. So far, everything they have said and done is purely hype and no substance in what appears so far to be an attempt to get everyone to up grade. Unfortunately many of us have fallen for it.

    Think about it, how many people involved that you know have a product in hand. It was stated to me that there was only 1500 of the 100,0000 + members who were able to order any phones at all. There is something very wrong with this picture. With so people sending in money and getting paid on the upgrade money, one has to wonder if this isn't just an elaborate money game. Proceed with caution.

  67. So, who told you that the phone deals fell through? Who told you the Sprint deal is out? Just wondering.

  68. How is it we only received $2.00 for data today 4/20/10 when we had thousands in our down lines. I know at least 5 of my personals entered data I helped them, not to mention thousands more who I'm sure at least a couple of hunderd of them must have entered data. So shouldn't I at least get $10.00 this company is blatantly riping of and taking advantage of folks who need money in these hard times. Please people, don't send them another dime. Please.

    I was told today that the 10 and 19 dollar phone deals fell through and will not return. (Notice these deals have been removed from the web site). Sprint is out of the deal totally. I guess Dan Hessie didn't like the game so he has decided not to provide any more of these contracts to Chris Greco.

    Troy you tried to tell us weeks ago but I didn't listen. Shame on me.

  69. Interesting my Affiliate says he recieved HiS, and submits a "SORRY the QUATA has been met" letter from DNA. Not one link or post on distributing the service, INTERESTING!

  70. Armando, if you are interested in joining DNA, please contact me at pd16004@yahoo.com and I can provide you with the info you need. If you decide to join, I can assist you. Thank You Jesus

  71. HI Doug,
    I would also like to ask Chris the same question. I've got an email on the 18th saying look out for the link in the back office the next couple of days and then receive another email on the 18th again saying that all the 75,000 phones were gone. I went Pro yesterday because of this deal. I guess I just got scam huh…..Doug, please post keep us update on this situation. Thanks.

  72. SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!!!! I can't believe they would be so obscenely unethical. They were saying a few days ago that the $10 deal would launch on the 20th. I get the e-mail 7:30 on the 18th to be looking for the link up to order in the next day or 2. Of course they had the link but it came up an "Error" page for everyone. NO ONE ORDERED A PHONE! Then we get an e-mail that evening "SOLD OUT". What a clever little trick! About 1% of my 50,000 downline are upgraded and NO ONE got a phone. That tells you something about this company! This is a BIG BIG SCAM! I am sticking with a real deal. http://www.8888864043.net

  73. Can anyone explain how I have 53,000 members in my DNA down line and not one of them I talked to was able to get a $10.00 phone? We started trying early today as soon as we got the message we would go live today 4/18/10 or tomorrow. I've taken a lot of time to look down my unilevel one level at a time and on average only 4-6 % have up graded. Numbers don't lie. Or, how about the fact they have been promoting the $19.95 deal as a permanent deal after the $10.00 deal and now their telling us there is a limit to that offer. What's going on, my phone is ringing off the hook. Chris can you explain this? It simply doesn't add up. This is setting off a fire storm of negative fury through out my down line. Even though I have a huge down line I'm still not sure if this deal is real or not.

  74. Hey Troy …

    DNA is a much larger MLM company based on what? Number of *free members without a base to pay them does not a larger company make. It's the company that IS providing services and products irregardless of membership #'s *free or not that has what people want.

    DNA may make it with a product implemented. However, without something they HAVE and can prove WORKS …it's a longshot at best. EVERYONE knows the rules accordingly – will be interesting to see what actuals happen …or not!

  75. I believe the license is for 75K. I heard it on a call, have not verified it, so do not treat it as gospel. Get on a DNA call, put yourself in the Q&A queue and ask for yourself.
    My recent post This is time sensitive. You need to act fast

  76. Sammy, that is funny, someone should get Chris Greco's DNA and find out once and for all what is his real "alias" name is. What a scammer.

  77. How are they going to pay $4.00 to the distributor and $2.00 to upline….LOL That's insane! They are basically giving it away. Where is the money to cover the wholesale cost for the plan and the money that's actually going to the company?
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  78. A deal should have been done and contract signed before you put yourself out there like that with Panther. Then none of this probably wouldn't have occurred.
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  79. I stumbled across DNA in search of a unique and reliable data source for use in my private investigation business. As a result, I've evolved from being a huge skeptic (even wondering if what they were doing is legal) to becoming a PRO affiliate (thetagfest.com) after doing some research and seeing George get on board. I respect George. Now, I'm glad I went ahead and signed up early on; my affiliate number is mid-6000 and my down-line has continued to grow well into three digits now and zero effort on my part, to date. Granted, some of their stuff will never interest me, but there is good upside potential. I'm still amazed at the confusion many people have regarding DNA's ability to earn dollars that can be applied toward pay-out. Their model isn't rocket science.

    HAGO.

  80. Yes it has worked with Paul. But his BS detector, Paul's boss, his wife Debbie is still waiting for product to arrive. So she is the other critic.skeptic to win over.
    My recent post This is time sensitive. You need to act fast

  81. I thought you were suppose to be helping Panther launch the unlimited everything product…LOL Thus far DNA hasn't launched an unlimited everything product either….LOL Anyway, I'm sure you can give me 200 free minutes or whatever. Just prove me wrong by launching this thing with DNA you all suppose to be coming out with. Until then, it's all spoiled meat to me. I'm tired of hearing it's coming soon, it's coming soon from these none telecom companies that are trying to branch off into the telecom arena in MLM. When is it going to get here NOW! Show me that you are pull it off my friend.
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  82. Now that makes sense, but how many people is it limited to?
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  83. Hello Ed Kress …

    You make some good points! It's not that Kevin and Harry didn't jump on ship – they have NO need to and wouldn't have …even if offered. The facts prove themselves in that Panther is not talking about but ALREADY HAS a company they're already involved in building to the top and they're very busy doing it!

    Bygones be bygones – next week it will be someone else in some other company!

    Bottom Line: Hype is hype anyway you cut it …same for $$$ signs that people grow wings and fly for! Right now it doesn't much matter what someone else did or not and when …it only matters that WHAT they say going forward HAPPENS and nothing else. If it doesn't we'll ALL KNOW for sure!

  84. LOL!

    Is this REALLY HAPPENING? From what we can tell …this nothing other than another carpetbagger or two attempting to stir up a pot that's incredibly competitive and nothing more!

    Folks – DECIDE WHERE and WHO you want to follow and GO DO IT! Everyone has that right and it SHOULD'NT BE UP for discussion publicly …Just LOOK what happens when it is! These Wireless Wars will NEVER end so long as we have Home Based Business Builders vying for this and that or something other. EVERYONE HAS an opinion – and needless to say …EVERYONE knows all about opinions – how many gozillion of there are they???

    How about we ALL remain PROfessionals and FOCUS on what we're doing instead of always trying to have the last say? THAT wouldn't be ANY fun …now would it? OKAY THEN …EVERYONE in favor say aye …EVERYONE NOT in favor say NO!

    GREAT EVERYONE …WE LOVE YOU ALL, now let's GET TO WORK and EARN SOME BIG MONEY!

  85. Raquel …

    That's even weaker yet. Everything you do – you have to create and it only goes so many levels deep! You MUST build wide and not deep. HOW MANY WIDE CAN you build? It's a known fact that binaries and unilevels are DIFFICULT to build and take MORE time and PEOPLE to fill than your typical matrix.

    NOT trying to down anyone – just saying. WHY would anyone WANT to spend MORE time than necessary to build a binary or unilevel – ESPECIALLY KNOWING that until you get the one side right – the other stands behind and there is NO good pay waiting for you at the end of the day!

  86. Chris …

    NO ONE ever said Panther was hype. NO ONE ever said you didn't offer your services. NO ONE ever said life is filled with roses and NO thorns. When someone offers something of value to help out it's always appreciated. You did what you thought was best for you in your situation – NO ONE can fault you for having your own thoughts.

    Bottom Line: Everyone has the right to make their own choices. Some do because they already are decided and …some do because they believe in others mindsets. Doesn't really matter one way or another. All anyone really in truly wants are for these wireless wars to end and begin talking about the positives and …NOT the negatives!

  87. Hello Mike …

    Unless you're a very good recruiter and ALL your downlne are good too – it's nearly impossible to create money out of thin air and a binary …period! Doesn't matter what the plan is – most people these days RUN from binaries and unilevels. Time and effort are the essentials and for such a SMALL amount of "chump change" as someone said …would hardly be worth the wait!

  88. Seriously, who is going to pay just $10 for talk and text? Most of us need a data plan! This might be a great marketing campaign, but I am more interested in the standard plans and who they compete.

    Lightyear just announced a 3 and free program, so things are heating up in the MLM Wireless Wars.

  89. Josie,

    Can you provide me a site or recording where Phil stated he is NOT part of DNA? I will write a report on this info.

  90. Hello Debra …

    Truth be told …FREE has NO value in terms of earning money. THINK about WHERE does the money come from in a company where everyone joins free? WHO and WHAT monies is going to pay those distributors or reps of any company when NO ONE is paying?

    You mentioned: you upgraded to Pro. Now you CAN earn monies monthly. For those that are FREE members – WHAT premise is anyone getting a pay check at all and from what monies since they didn't contribute any at all?

    Most companies DO NOT have a bank of money they pay FREE members out of. They MUST have monies coming in to pay monies out. You're absolutely 100% correct in stating we're experiencing a bad economy at best and possibly more to come. People need to feel they have an "out" in terms of finding something to do that WILL at least provide them some amount of money in their efforts to support themselves and / or their families.

  91. On the calls they had already said over and over and over again they were shooting for the 15th but that at the latest it would be some time between the 20th and the 27th.

    The $10 deal is launching on the 20th and the rest by the 27th.

    The $10 deal is limited to a certain amount of people, which is what they previously said. We then have something similar, with 20 MBD for under $20 a month. Still an unbeatable price.

  92. hello i have been with DNA from just about the begining. In order to sign up you need a sponsor. Feel free to sign up here and I would love to help any of your members grown with DNA.

    josie
    http://josie32.datanetworkaffiliates.com

  93. Phil already said he is NOT affiliated with us. Rumors tend to get started when you piss off a lot of people with great rates. This has been addressed on the calls many times

  94. Hey Wireless Guru!

    Just wait until you see the NEXT big comp plan on the books, ha! Truth is that ANYONE THINKING there's a fast and easy way to earn those big dollars …had better have a goldmine of their own ahead of their actions!

    Comp Plans come and go and get redistributed and re-configured all the time. If this one is what it says it is …there's going to be a hefty long wait to reach those 10's of 1,000's of dollars per month at the rate of $2.00 every 20 license tags.

    Not to mention the wireless – – what was it again …$10 per month Chris said and then $4.00 to the distributor and THEN …$2.00 and $0.20 to the downline on the Myrtle Beach, SC call? Just saying that we all have to be oh so careful where we place our loyalties based on what we believe and the actual truths of it all.

    One day …one thing can sound so good and then the next day fall to pieces. Better to STAY in one place, work hard and EARN the income deserved than to be HOPPING around looking for the next big pajama party!

  95. Hello Curious …

    You make some good points and have great questions. Let's see if we can lend any resolve to some of your questions: Chris Greco was with Global Verge and activating. He then had a situation that most are not privy to and cut ties. Coming to Panther Mobile – Chris became a rep and offered to assist in activating services and offering HIS services at the same time. You're correct in stating that Chris Greco was in fact NOT a partner or corporate principle @ Panther.

    To say that all reps that Chris brought into Panther will be moving with him is none the less untrue. Not everyone will agree with everyone else on this and certainly not everyone will want to make that move before proofing the playing ground.

    Suffice it to say with so much going on and the Wireless Telcom Industry online and being introduced to the virtual world of marketing …probably better that people wait before making their final decision to leave one good company that is providing what it says it can and going to another and …THINKING as they watch to see what happens next!

    This is WHAT competition is ALL about!

  96. mlm secrets why dont you contact me CHRIS GRECO, and I will put you on the plan, chris@unlimitedwizard.com I have found its always best to let your Critics try the product plain and simple. Oh has Panther launched an unlimited everything product? NOPE. what about boost and at&t? Nope

  97. Panther was not hype, in-Fact I have said that Kevin has a great software product, And Hype is when you dont produce! We did, It was panthers choice not to implement BOOST AND AT&T, Not ours, Also it was panthers DELAY and Not signing a deal that was promised with us, Now that was hype, As for DNA, In 48 hrs, We signed paperwork, And were able to place our guys properly, SO LET ME GUESS I WAS SUPPOSE TO STAY THERE WITH NO DEAL IN PLACE CONTINUE TO HURT MY BUSINESS AND WAIT FOR PANTHER TO TAKE MONTHS TO IMPLEMENT PRODUCTS, I dont think, so.

  98. Partners,

    You nailed it on the head. If one company was best for everyone it wouldn't be to long before someone would get disgruntled and screw it all up.

  99. I talked with Kevin and he clarified everything. And Harry has called to say he is coming close to the island and might stop by to chat.

    Panther has been staying focused on their core business and taking care of their distributors, so it will be fun to watch them grow.

  100. Hey Troy …

    Just to clarify: Panther IS NOT merging with any other company and …HAVE NOT been offered nor would they be interested. What Panther has – they have today and ARE securing whatever comes their way in terms of Unlimited Wireless Services and Products.

    One thing Panther is not IS: Panther is NOT doing HYPE and they're speaking ONLY truths about what they can provide and whatever IS out there, Panther WILL HAVE! Respect IS earned and Panther HAS earned ALL they respect they have now …

    Panther IS very technically INVOLVED in setting up ALL the RESOURCES REQUIRED just as much as ANY one other person INCLUDING OWNING their own SOFTWARE and having THEIR OWN expert programmers. NOT every other company out there CAN say that and NOT any one person in reality can make claims to the contrary and be correct.

  101. Fact: there is always going to be a "disgruntled" someone(s) in ANY company and at any given time. History proves that people always tell THEIR side of the story complete with embellishments to suit themselves …right or wrong. Really getting to know a person IS crucial when doing business with them. Knowing TRUTH's before listening to what any one person has to say and at least taking the time to FIND OUT rather than focusing on the daily feedings in the shark pool and you CAN believe – they're out there!

    Sadly – when people get involved in all the "he saids" and "she saids" …they have a tendency to drag OTHERS along with them when the emotions THEY are feeling RULE the day. In the end, they're only doing damage to their own credibility and business and not much else!

  102. Hey Troy!

    ALL IS GOOD @ Panther! Some changes have occurred in regards to people changing course rather than staying put for the future. These things DO happen in this industry. People NEED to STAY FOCUSED on what THEY are doing and building THEIR business's rather than concerning themselves with WHAT OTHERS are saying and doing.

    There is ALWAYS going to be someone(s) OVERLY concerned with WHAT someone else is saying or doing, particularly when it's something negative or a "disgruntled" somone elses opinion of the situation. That's not to say that people should ignore going on's …but simply to say, what's even MORE important is WHY a person is there and has chosen any one particular company to work with in the FIRST place!

    Changing course is up to the individual and shouldn't be a matter of public opinion one way or another. We would encourage anyone in business to STEER CLEAR from company politics, period! Companies HAVE corporate principles to handle ANY and ALL issues that may arise in order to KEEP things fluid and moving forward.

    Continued …

  103. Hmmmm. What I can say about Chris Greco is this. When a post at MLMHelpdesk.com includes him, it sure spikes a lot of traffic in the community.

    Chris and I have had a rather bitter, and public war here at MLM Helpdesk. I did everything I could to discredit and humiliate him. And at the very least hurt him and create aggravation for him. I dare say, that may have been the smartest move I ever made.

    Most of you know I was a very staunch supporter of Global Verge. I still believe that Mark and Ted are trying to build a viable business. I wish them luck and no ill will. However I have seen this happen many times in the past that when the leaders bolt to a new opportunity, resurrection is nearly impossible. And even if it does occur, the momentum is gone. So when Global Group left Global Verge to start People Helping People, I knew that trying to build it up would be like Sisyphus trying to roll the boulder up the hill. Not my idea of fun.

    Chris Greco was the only one to get me a phone. Albeit, I could have got the same plan myself. As a beta tester I found the flaws and shortcomings. He is at our last conversation about to bring on two other Canadian carriers.

    Here is my view of the situation.

    It is doubtful that GV will recover from the exodus of their leadership.
    Panther has products, but as a startup they still have a shoestring budget to work with.
    PHP has a strong marketing machine, but who is running it and what is their experience?
    DNA has the management team in place, deep pockets from what I have been told (third party source not involved with DNA) and several viable products about to be launched.

    I am curious as to how this will turn out.
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  104. Curious & MLM Secrets,

    Agreed – Hype has never been the way for any one person and / or business to DO business! It almost always ends up in disaster for those spilling beans that have the tendency to "hop" around more than stand firm in any one thing! What most don't realize is that this "hopping" around doesn't make them money any quicker or more of it.

    Competitorship's have always been good for business no matter what business one is in. Everyone in this industry SHOULD already know about DOING their Due Diligence BEFORE joining any one company and FINDING OUT WHO they're involved with FIRST.

    ACTIONS, WORDS and REACTIONS PROVE WHO a person is along with their ability to be honest and ethical and to maintain a high level of professionalism no matter what the situation. In our book – ACTIONS speak louder than words and words being expressions ARE NOT always correctly interpreted!

  105. Today is the Big Day for DNA and guess what? They pushed the date back to the 20th for the $10 unlimited talk & text plan. I honestly believe this is hype to stir up people and try to get them to jump on this ship to then try to strike a deal like that with xtreme mobile which currently have 5 day access plans with unlimited talk n text for $10. But you only get that for 5 days until you have to refill your account. I'm not going to buy this spoiled bologna that DNA is selling until they prove what they are saying is real. I can't see this being a monthly plan for DNA simply because if it is, why waste the time offering anything else. Who cares what network it's on because if it's $10, I would buy it no matter what. No one isn't going to care about the other plans they supposely are going to have. I can sacrafice data for $10 would you? Either way this doesn't look good that they pushed the date back. I had a gut feeling this was going to happen.
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  106. Well this is awesome! Look guys, DNA is the place to be. I invite everyone to go to the DNA site and join. Thing are going in the direction to make DNA reps who work hard and smart can make their financial dreams come true. We have the services and the phones so you can watch and wait, or you can take action and make a difference for your family and yourself.

  107. Steve,

    Here is the situation based on the current info we have at hand. Greco, like Lightyear Wireless buys specific wholesale data from some tier one and tier two providers. How he decides to resell that data is up to him. This is why he is able to give away 200 free minutes all the time.

    Now as for all the other stuff going on, we are monitoring everything and have eyes on the ground in South Florida digging a little deeper.

  108. Yes, Chris, maybe so… but here is my question to you. Whether you are aware of it, or not, you have one Mr. Phil Piccolo in the 'mix' with you – and if you've done your homework at all, he's the kiss of death for any company he's a part of. It's a simple fact that has been proven over and over again. He has a loooooong list of companies that he seems quite proud of – but the other side of that piece of bread is WHY so many companies? Half of them have kicked him out. Why? You have to ask those questions. If you've ever dealt with him? You don't even HAVE to ask those questions… you already know why. Hands down, he is the single most unethical person I've ever dealt with. IF you can overcome the Piccolo factor, you could very well have something good. Time will tell. I can assure you, whatever else he is doing, he is going to have the mother of all emailing lists by the time he is done here – you can take that to the bank.

  109. WHY DO PEOPLE DRINK SO MUCH KOOL-AID? Wow!! $10 Unlimited Talk and Text just aint going to happen!! Wonder what the fine print says? Does anyone know? I didn't think so. Troy come on. Step up and help these Kool-Aid drinkers from making a huge mistake. You have been around long enough to know what this is. People respect you Troy, don't let them down!

  110. $10 is just talk and text and that is if there will really be a $10 plan. We will see tomorrow when they open up the cellular side.

  111. Troy,

    From listening to the DNA Cellular Training call with Chris Greco, the $10 plan is on the Sprint network and is just Unlimited Talk and Text with a free LG Vx6100 phone. He also plans on having an unlimited everything plan with no data caps on the Verizon network for $59.99 and Unlimited everything on the AT&T network for $79.99 no data caps! Sounds like some big plans, I hope that it comes to pass….

  112. Check your email… I've already begun sending and will continue sending daily until you have everything.

  113. Jones,

    We do have folks in both companies and are receiving information on a daily basis. And unlike Narc, DNA sends to us all their correspondence prior to sending to the field, giving us time to review and ask questions.

  114. Jones,

    We need to clear up just a couple of things to make your comment a little more straightforward.

    1. The company doesn't have to pay commissions out of profits.
    2. They can pay commissions out of pre-selling the benefit packages
    3. The can pay profits out of the upgrades if the upgrades include a valid product or services which the distributor is paying a membership fee.

    Since I am not a part of the company I can't say where the money comes from, but there are plenty of legal ways for a company to pay commissions in a pre-launch.

  115. Ameruban,

    I have been asking people to send me stuff on Phil Piccolo. If you have valid documentation that Piccolo has been kicked out of companies can you provide it to me. I admit there are a boat load of companies which are no longer around, which Piccolo has been a part of. But, that is the story for most networkers since over 75% of MLM/Direct Selling companies don't make it past five years.

    I need hard evidence, and so far all we have received is a boatload of personal opinion, and no hard evidence Piccolo has ever done anything illegal or unethical. Can you help out?

  116. Here is what I would like to know. How is DNA making money right now? It doesn't have a product? It first product was data which now we learn will be given away for free to organizations that will use it to find missing children. So that is not a money maker. And not wireless service is coming online 4/14/10, so there is nothing. DNA claims to have cut checks, but from what profit? Upgrades? That legal is it?

  117. Mike,

    You bring up and interesting point. Here are a few questions, I have on these services.

    1. Does the $10 a month plan include data? If data is not included, then what does the talk, text and data plans cost?

    I think you might have posted just a little prematurely.

  118. Well its not chump change at all when you look at the numbers that will flood over… Wow mobile may be paying out the most for $60+ plans. When this $10 plan comes out then there is NOT going to be very many WOW mobile customers that want to pay $60+ for the phone bill anymore. All the people are going to cancel who don't have their 3 referred. Then that will make all the people who had 3 referred have to start paying again. Then they cancel and so on… When you look at the numbers you will get 100 to ever 1 you get in WOW EASY. How many people do you know who pay more then $50 per month on a cell phone. Now you can go in and help them save $40 – $100 per month, and that's just the retail side of it. I see this making a lot of people money on just the retail of the phone plans not the building of the business…
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  119. Thank-you Troy I stand corrected! I quess the really point I was looking in the compensation pay is why I have over 3900 on one side and until I realized how the legs were working and adjusted it- it changed back to filling the strong side.? I still trying to understand all of these plans and know that they are designed for the ones that have large groups.

  120. Ed,

    Correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding DNA is a uni-level compensation plan, not a Binary. Narc I believe uses a binary. Did the compensation change at DNA or have I missed something?

  121. I would have to agree with you Curious. All I have seen is a bunch of hype from these so called companies trying to jump into telecom. This is bananas and I'm tired of it. Will someone please produce a product and stay with one telecom company?
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  122. It is amazing that Chris jumps from ship to ship–If this was such a great program why didn't Kevin and Harry jump on it. Should put a question in everyone's mind because Kevin and Harry from Panther Mobile have produced and provide plans. How much hype are people ready to digest before they get a ulcer. If DNA was such a great company why did all of the new signups feed one side and when you re-set it, it changed. Binary plans paid on the weak side–so who is going to make the money? Plus the hype of joining free on DNA and this gets people in and now where is the focus going? Is this another Global Verge happening and people are eyes are covered by $$$? Chris where was you booth at the CTIA-I was there and never saw it, plus it is funny that when I tried to call you the phone number you give me to call you didn't even have the voice mail set up and never got a call back from you–Chris where were you?

  123. I am a small fish in the DNA pond. but I have never been in an organization that looks out for their reps better then DNA as far as something being free. I know there are programs out there that say they are free but they never make any money. I saw the vision with DNA and I upgraded to Pro. There are so many benefits being pro. BUT you NEVER have to upgrade in order to make money. I am very excited. In my regular biz I do Credit Repair and am licensed. A lot of the people I work with need a little extra money to help them out of a hole and this will work for them. If you know anyone that would like to join DNA my site is http://www.ddenny.tageverycar.com and also help save the children or maybe help solve a crime.

  124. Is this $10 plan a 30 days access plan or just a 3 day plan?
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  125. So far doesn't look like it.
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  126. Hi Chris,

    I'm a DNA Rep from Australia and I was just wondering whether you can confirm what networks will DNA Cellular be running off and as an estimate what will the pricing be for unlimited Talk, Text & data?

    One last question Chris, If a dna Cellular customer has issues where does he go for customer support?

    Thanks for your time Chris I really would appreciate if you could answer these two questions.

  127. Troy,
    Your understanding is also the way I see it with the facts that have been shared. Here is a thought, Doing business with someone is far different than entering into business with someone. Harry and Kevin were wise in seeing what Chris could bring to the table. Chris is a man of many talents and his energy and his passion to bring game changing product to market has caught all our attention. Now the true test for Chris is to see what he does with the next couple of months ahead. I'm not talking about the product or service he may bring but he now has the best opportunity he has ever had to show that he has grown and is thankful for a few handful of men that have worked and assisted along side of him. The next few months will show the true side of Chris. What he does with it will be telling. He for sure has a lot to gain if he does right, and look what doing right will do to the ever so excited boys of the prior gig. It would indeed be salt in the wounds of their deeds.

  128. If its like Boomers of America that never got off the ground…it could go back on the scam list…magnets, number plates, now $10 phone bills…were is the income?

    looking at the numbers its a low pay out…Wow Mobile pays the most money out of all the Wireless mlm's…by far for that matter.

    Just don't see a viable business/income for the full time networker…its chump change

  129. Curious,

    I can't talk about private contracts Greco has or disclose the CEOs I have talked with who are either using his services now, or are in negotiations. But at least two of these companies have tenure in the MLM field long before the wireless fad hit.

  130. Let me address this now! I gave panther everything I had, I sat and waited patiently, So this is my fault, You have to be kidding me, So let me guess, Me giving them Phones and Pins AT MY COST, was not helping, and me taking all retail items off unlimited wizard was not helping, Further I never recieved 1 PENNY from panther, I was not a rep, I was told I would be an owner, They even told the field I was the V.P. . But again nothing on paper, And we waited and waited and waited, Would you rather I put the reps off when I see red flags? We had ZERO control over implementing products at Panther. And We only talked good about them while they bad mouthed us to leaders in the field. These leaders even recorded some of these conversations, Now thats not me but a leader, I didnt believe it till I heard it for myself! So DNA says we will let you bring in all of the people you want (my guys) and put them at the top of the company and further I get to run the wireless division, They showed dedication in getting a deal done now, Not Using me as panther did, Why dont we take a poll, I can tell you what If i was wrong so many people would not be leaving panther for DNA right now.

    Chris Greco

  131. Hey Jones!

    Funny …oh! This isn't part of what one can do over another and you're comment about DNA having 100,000 distributors: OH MY! Reported they had 92,000 in a 3 month span and then @ another site online the same 92,000 in a 2 month span …ALL earning a whopping $2.00 per 20 car tags?

    No one here seems to be mentioning the downloaded softward that also has a price to input those car tag numbers or you can mail them in and wait for accounting to catch up and send you a paycheck??? BEFORE Telcom coming aboard DNA with whomever – there was NO PRODUCT to the end user reflecting a FOR SURE problem as those monitoring shcemes, scams and ponzi's go.

    Given the facts wether they be misunderstandings, misinformations or misperceptions reading a website – SOMEONE HAS to know or FIND OUT what's really going on BEFORE they logon and speak ANY peace and promo or protect ANY one company! This is the REAL issue with most home based business's – people tend to believe who they know and NOT WHAT they know!

  132. So when you were recruiting people for Panther all the hype you put out about them and their opportunity was just smoke and mirrors then?

    Chris, please excuse my skepticism but all we've seen from you is hype. You were part of the hype that created the Global Verge disaster. Then you brought your product to Panther where you created more hype. Now you're going to DNA and creating more hype again????

    Why should people respect your experience in MLM when clearly you've done nothing but add to the carnage that gives MLM a bad name?

  133. So let me get this straight. You weren't a partner of Panther, just supplied them with service – but you were a rep in their comp plan? You recruited reps into Panther and now you're moving "your reps" to DNA?

    Chris, have you actually helped any MLM company succeed with a wireless product?

  134. Troy,

    Can you point out any company that Chris has "helped out" that is actually doing anything?

  135. troy I want to say that Kevin and Harry, did this to their selfs, They should have Signed chris long ago, like DNA is doing now with him, They say you can keep a pitbull in the back yard two ways, Fence em in or Feed em well. Right?

    Kevin and Harry I blame you for the demise of panther, You gave us nothing but promises, and Now chris has left, I dont blame chris He waited paitiently I will say this,

    Chris thank you for taking this alabama boy in, Let make it happen at DNA.

    P.S. I want to add that no matter how bad these guys have done him he said on his call today that he still wanted them in this deal.

    Panther is Gone and The empire of DNA is HERE!!!!!

  136. Hi Chris, please tell me, who is going to service the customer with issues. if they buy the service or product over the portal or the stores in the US? or ( intl markets). and. How good an attractive deal can be offered in BC or Canada to bring in the Traffic. Thanks. Peter

  137. Troy we will be gettingtogether in florida tomorrow, Sorry I am typing and driving on the netbook, I have offered Kevin to be at this meeting, I Wont get into mud slinging, But I want to be where me and My company are wanted, Period, We had a deal on the table for more than 90 days with panther, How Long am I actually suppose to wait for it to be done?
    I have done everything I can to ensure panther is on good footing, And I welcome them to come into the DNA family, And as I have said on my calls many times!, I am doing the same with my team and people who follow me by placing them in a good position in the company as I have done with panther, I understand all of yourconcerns, can they make it without us there? That will remain to be seen, Boost and AT&T were our products, and will not be implemented there, Though panther can still get those services through us through DNA, I will continue to build businesses for our REPS, and I will continue to look out for OUR distributors, That means if you came in with me, I will of course take care of my guys, as anyone else would do in this industry. I am building something here for all reps, Warren has given us complete control here, so guess what if something doesnt go right its on me! and Unlimited Wizard Inc. no one else. So well see what happens, We have the products, the phones, and yes WE ARE THE ONLY COMPANY THAT BRANDS THE IPHONE. Stay Tuned, I will make my official announcement on the 4pm est time call tomorrow, On what the direction is for my team and where we are going.

  138. Chris Greco, has never been a corporate partner of Panther. Chris has done work with several MLM Wireless companies to help them out, and each time Chris is very open to explain, if they want a long term partnership he is willing to entertain it.

    In the case of Panther, Harry and Kevin have some other deals in the works, and they felt those would better fit their business model.

    From listening to the conference call DNA has offered Chris the opportunity to head the DNA Cellular division.

  139. Jones,

    It is my understanding from talking to all parties involved that Panther never accepted Chris's offer, not the other way around. Since Harry and Kevin did not find value in a long term strategic partnership with Greco, I am sure they have something just as good in play.

    So, let's make sure we are on the same page. Panther turned down Chris, not the other way around.

  140. This is correct. Panther is not a part of the DNA deal with Greco.

    However, I have heard they were given a chance to be part of it, and did not get back with the parties involved.

  141. Hey Armando …

    Just to clarify: there is NO Panther Mobile / DNA conference call. More than likely what you heard was on a call with Chris Greco. Fact is that Chris Greco's calls were never "official" Panther Mobile calls.

    Chris Greco has been instrumental in doing what he does best. Panther Mobile is NOT partnering OR merging with DNA. They are their own entity and company and will remain so.

  142. I was trying to put a panther/dna deal together, cant talk about the specifics yet because another major MLM company is involved, But I can say that as it stands right now it doesnt look good, but that doesnt mean its dead.

  143. I will say that adding our company to the product line gives them communications integrity.

  144. what happened will be explained, but the short answer is we couldnt wait any longer to get things done. With all that is coming out of PHP we had to make a move to stay competitive, Also We dont want to get into he said she said, but we never earned a dime at panther and we never had an agreement signed, I think 90 days is enough time to do that.

    Chris Greco

  145. Panther Mobile was aware of Chris's Plans. However, I personally have heard Chris make promises to DNA such as Branding all of his wireless store DNA Cellular. He made this same promise to Panther Mobile. Maybe he see more profit potential from DNA since DNA has over 100 thousands affiliates, not necessarily active.

    We will have to see how this all plays out.

  146. Thank you, are you from Panther? nothing against with Panther, they are doing great work, just want to know if i can do DAN with out developing other mlm. please read the question I ask Troy so you will know what i mean, best regards…

  147. Troy,
    on the http://www.DataNetworkAffiliates.com when I click on the 2nd window the "THIS 20 SECOND VIDEO WILL CHANGE YOUR D.N.A. LIFE" is done by by Chris Greco, Chris Greco or Panther is or is not partner with DNA? I am confuse..

    (2nd window) http://animoto.com/play/AC14zvJrcOONY5DafiqI0g

  148. DNA and Panther Mobile are not merging. Chris Greco his service to DNA just as he provided it to Panther Mobile, helping it get all the contracts needed to provide wireless services.

  149. Troy we will be announcing something later today, here and at activationkingwireless.com, Concerning where we are and where we are going, The reasons for this postion, as well as other things we are doing.

    One thing I will say is this move makes everyone who has been with me in a much stronger Position than ever before, and further we now have the strength and ability to go toe to toe, with the storm that is brewing one state above me in north carolina. We are now as a team over 130,000 Distributors Strong, And moving forward I see rapid growth, and Distributors actually getting what they were promised, The ability to make money from wireless. I am still having a constitution written with leaders in the field.

    To make this better.

    I look forward to helping all of you build your business moving forward.

    On a livelier note Training was awesome yesterday and people really learned alot, I was very happy with how it went.

    I will explain how everything happened and why but I need to talk with troy first.

    I have nothing but good things to say about Harry and Kevin, And I really look forward to working with them More in the future, But I just couldnt stand by any longer with what I know is coming on May, 14th 2010. I had to do something so big to be on a level or higher playing field and now we are, I will have more info later today.

  150. Hello Armando,

    Yes you can join DNA on your own. Over 100,000 affiliates have done so in the past 60 days. DNA has been a very attractive opportunity from the beginning because they offer a FREE signup and pay you 10 levels deep as a FREE Affiliate. I would love to have you join us and begin building your team before the launch of the Unlimited Talk and Text plan on April 14th. This is not a voip plan this is on the Sprint network. We will also offer FREE phones if you don't have one. Join me http://j3solutions.tageverycar.com

    Troy, thank you for taking the time to get to know DNA. There is so much more to come!!!

  151. Armando,

    To my knowledge Panther has nothing to do with DNA. DNA is a much larger MLM company. Chris Greco was never a corporate partner of Panther's, just a service provider.

    If you are looking for someone to sign up with go to http://www.DataNetworkAffiliates.com and contact their corporate office or you might do a Google search for a leader in DNA.

    If you contact corporate ask for George and tell him I sent you over, he'll take care of you.

  152. Can we develop DNA with out been in Panther? and if we can how do we sign up?
    Thank you again..

  153. Cindy,

    I don't think anything happened at Panther. I have not been able to get an answer from any of the principles because they are all so busy.

  154. From what I have heard Chris is still providing some stuff for Panther. Since Chris was never a corporate partner, just a strategic service provider, I think he has helped them over their initial launch and is now rolling on to the next company he can help.

    this is a great question, and I have not gotten a straightforward answer from any of the principles involved.

  155. Ameruban,

    Great question! George and I have talked several times about Phil Piccolo, and I do have Phil scheduled for Aces Radio Live in August. If we can't get an answer to your question before August, then we'll have to ask it on live radio.

  156. Armando,

    I am sure before the weekend is out Chris or someone from Corporate will be answering this question here on the blog. Since I am not part of the company, I am not qualified to answer.

  157. Hello Troy, thank you for your information, I have a question, I was on a conf/call with Panther and DNA, I heard they are going to partner, and the question is the ' UNLIMITED Talk & Text $10.00 monthly service" is that VOIP? that is my question. Thank you Troy, because if this is true, we are going to be able to help many people and finely have the right to wake up naturally, I pray that hope this is true..

  158. I guess maybe they feel if they get enough people who actually HAVE integrity that it will compensate for anyone who LACKS it…

  159. I'm just curious, Troy… when they say they aren't "hiding anything", are they hiding Phil Piccolo? Have they been willing to address that issue?

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