May 25, 2013 22:51

Breaking MLM News: Global Verge Former CEO and CFO Break Their Silence

Breaking MLM News: Global Verge’s former interim CEO, Steve Lewis and CFO, Teresa Curits, break their silence, reveling some very interesting information on the inside workings of Global Verge and Buzzirk Mobile, by founders Ted Robbins and Mark Petschel.

Steve Lewis Teresa Curtis

This open letter answers some questions, and raises even more to those who have been watching this saga unfold over the last year.

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“We have been quiet long enough and we are using this letter to be proactive so that everyone can understand the actions of Steve Lewis and Teresa Curtis in the matter of Global Verge. Our purpose is to get the facts straight so the rumors and lies that are being circulated will be totally dispelled.

Fact – Steve and Teresa were asked in May 2009 by Mark and Ted to help them to organize a company that was going wild and out of their control. Steve and Teresa agreed to help behind the scenes to get things started and straightened out.

Fact – In late June Steve and Teresa agreed to help on an interim level acting as CEO and Secretary to the corporation (which we were for all of three weeks.) The agreement included the following:

• Teresa worked on scripts that were supposed to be turned into videos for the company

• Steve as acting CEO until such time as Warren Hanchey could take over as CEO.

• Teresa as overseer of the Accounting and office operations, including training Craig Perry, an excellent business man and attorney, who was not going to be the corporate attorney, but the operations manager in the issues and specialties of MLM operations.

• Teresa would also work on customer service to bring it up to date as Mark’s wife was handling it and didn’t want to.

• Gerry Nehra must be hired as MLM attorney.

• A Canadian MLM attorney was to be hired to make Canada legal as far as MLM was concerned.

• An Australian MLM attorney would be found to make Australia legal.

Steve and Teresa would find merchant accounts because Mark and Ted could not obtain one on their own (we found out later it was because Mark had pled guilty on a 2005 securities fraud charge and was currently sentenced to 5 years probation plus repayment) For details see http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2004/06/07/daily15.html

• Steve would also act as Marketing Director, starting a Triple diamond call to keep distributors apprised of the day by day current situation of the company.

• All Contracts were to be sent to Teresa to ascertain all legal liabilities of the company.

• Teresa would also become resident agent for the Nevada Corporation and therefore was supposed to get all the legal paperwork of the company as its agent.

All of this was agreed upon by Mark, Ted, Steve, Teresa, Warren and Craig in our living room in Las Vegas.
What we found out when things started to trickle in was:

• There was no accounting books anywhere. The commissions were being handled byXennsoft, an excellent software company, but the Global Verge ‘books’ were nonexistent. An August 2, 2009 email from Teresa to Ted shows that she was still trying to find out who was owed money and how much.

• What arrived for Teresa was a box with lots of paper in it, which had to be sorted out with Ted there as there was no rhyme or reason to it.

• The customer service ticket system was like a big pot that only a couple of people could handle and then they had to go through all of tickets to find the new ones and answer them. Teresa went in and organized it so that small issues could be taken care of immediately and larger issues were routed to the proper person.

• Teresa also found contracts to people for large sums of money. There was no record of this money coming in to Global Verge. When she raised this issue, it became the first time that Mark stated that Buzzirk Mobile was separate from Global Verge and that all of our work was with Global Verge and NOT Buzzirk Mobile.

• The next issue came when Teresa was looking for contracts between Global Verge, Buzzirk Mobile and Zer01. We were all told that the contract with Zer01 was with Buzzirk Mobile and Zer01 and that Global Verge had nothing to do with it. Craig Perry was then asked to put together a contract with Zer01 and Buzzirk Mobile. The management staff kept insisting that Global Verge have a written contract with Buzzirk, but we have no knowledge if this was ever done.

• At this point we also found out that Mark was on probation for securities fraud and that he wasn’t allowed to leave the state, sell securities or solicit funds in any way. Teresa immediately asked Mark and Ted about the trips that Mark was taking and about the contracts that Mark had signed regarding money solicited for investment from Canada and Australia. She was informed that those contracts were with Buzzirk and not Global Verge and she basically should ‘butt out’.

• Steve and Warren had also gone out on a personal and financial limb and had convinced 2 merchant account dealers that they would back Global Verge’s credit card accounts. All of us began to feel really uneasy about that.

• We had also helped find funding for Global Verge, (yes Mark solicited us for it) fortunately that money was on a short term basis and did indeed get paid back.

Needless to say, all of these incidents were raising red flags. The biggest red flag that was raised came from Mark’s refusal to allow us to even talk to Zer01. We wanted some straight answers instead of the changing commentary that we were getting from Mark. The story was changing daily. We finally insisted on meeting with Ben Piilani which was agreed to as long as Ted was with us. During that meeting we found out several things that for us put the icing on the cake as far as Mark was concerned.

• According to Ben, Mark had lied to us about what Ben had promised. Since Ben also was not living up to his contract about providing service, we were willing to give Mark the benefit of the doubt.

• Ben told us that he thought we might have service in the US in about a month.
• Canada was at least 6 months away

• Australia was at least a year away.

• He did have a voip service that he might be able to use in Canada and Australia.

We left that meeting in shock and horror. Ted Robbins showing as much shock and horror as the rest of us. We sat down and decided that the only way to save the company was to:

• Remove Mark’s name from all ties with the company and put all the stock in Ted’s name. We NEVER asked for stock to be put in our name. The closest we came to that is to ask that stock be set aside for rewards to Employees who had been there at least five years.

• Find another true cellular phone company that we could use for Canada and Australia until such time as Zer01 was ready with their product.

• Find out where all the money that Mark had received from Canada and Australia had gone to. Had some of it gone to Zer01? Was that why Mark did not want us involved with it? What deal did he personally have with Zer01?

Ted got Mark on the phone and Mark agreed that he would do whatever it took to make Global Verge successful. He agreed to hand over to Ted his stock certificates, stating that after all the money was in Buzzirk and not Global Verge. Ted went back to the office to accomplish this task, Warren contacted another phone company that we had talked to and we set about putting a service together that would satisfy Global Verge’s international clients.

The next thing we hear is that Mark is NOT going to turn over his stock. This was a complete reversal on what he had said. All of a sudden Ted was agreeing with him, after all his posturing when he was at our house. They also stated in no uncertain terms that were not even going to look at another phone company for Canada and Australia and that they are going to stick strictly with Zer01. We were told that Australia and Canada were NOT to be told what we had found out about from Zer01. In other words, lie to the distributors.

We then had a meeting with Steve, Teresa and Warren who agreed that this was totally unsatisfactory and against our integrity. We told Mark and Ted that unless they came up with a satisfactory way to solve the issue, we would all resign by Friday. On Thursday morning, after Craig Perry had left for another meeting with Zer01 in an attempt to reconcile everything, Mark and Ted fired the three of us.

We were told that we could keep the approximately 32,000 person downline that we had and nothing else would be affected. Even though this obviously meant a great deal of money to us, we could NOT be that far out of integrity. We told them in no uncertain terms that we were NOT going to have anything else to do with them and we all resigned from our distributorships.

They immediately put out a rush email and ambushed Craig on his way back from the meeting with Ben and staged a “isn’t it wonderful how we have everything going for us” call. We then put out an email to the Triple Diamonds and had a call where we told them the truth.

Craig Perry stayed with the program for a few more months and finally resigned.

Zer01 resigned from them and I hear there is a lawsuit going on. There should be. Our feeling is that Zer01 may have had the technology, but they were nowhere near being able to produce it. Zer01 did not resign because of us and it has been long enough now that people know the truth, we did NOT start another company with Zer01, though both
Mark and Ted used that as an excuse and as usual needed a scapegoat and our resignation left them a perfect target.

After we realized what liars Mark and Ted were, we no longer backed the merchant accounts. So yes we were responsible for those getting shut down, but we can’t figure out why Mark and Ted would think that we would financially back them after the things we found out.

We talked to no other vendors or tried to harm Global Verge in any way.

Craig Perry remains a staunch friend and assured us that while Mark and Ted were bad mouthing us in private, they had promised not to do so in public. Craig totally denied ever hearing Mark and Ted blaming us in public for anything.

Yet he also couldn’t deny that he was hearing all kinds of strange things from the distributors that were totally untrue. We only have the distributors who called and cussed us out for trying to steal the company to know that they blamed us as they blamed everyone else for the previous company going under. Craig finally had had enough and resigned a few months after we did.

It’s amazing how the story of E-verge and the story of Global Verge coincide so well. Could it be that Mark and Ted have played this game before and that’s how they got their money?

I think it is amazing that we have copies of contracts where Mark got almost a million dollars, yet what did he do with it? There was a lot of interaction between Zer01 and Buzzirk – or really a lot of interaction between Mark and Ben.

Could it be that there was something going on over at Zer01 that Mark was a part of? We all thought that until Zer01 quit Buzzirk a week later. Then we couldn’t figure out what the “cloak and dagger” business was about between Mark and Zer01.

Did Ben take that million dollars and screw Mark? Is Mark still involved with Ben? We found that relationship really strange and couldn’t figure out what Mark and Ted had done with all the money.

There were so many underhanded things going on behind the scenes that had to come to light. We found out so much that we left and warned everyone what was going to happen. Oh, yeah – it did happen. Guess we were right all along!

But it couldn’t have been Mark or Ted’s fault after all, could it? It had to all be the fault of Steve, Teresa and Warren. We had a whole 3 weeks to try and get a company together that Mark and Ted had spent two years and many lies to create.

Teresa Curtis
Keerthi Online
702-450-5940″

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  • Kevin D. Berry

    Amazing!!

  • http://www.samcfl.com Sam Cleaver

    I wonder if they believe that an investigation is coming, and trying to clear their name now. I still remember a call with (I am 90% certain it was him) Steve where he said they had phones working, and we asked him to video them and post to u-tube, and he hemmed and hawed and became frustrated. I believe much of this story, but I think they may have had more knowledge then they are telling. I can't prove it, and to me it really doesn't matter any more, but everyone makes mistakes. I hope this facilitates the end of GV. No one needs to be scammed any more by them. I do feel for the associates, I spent money on marketing (cards, and flyers and other) neglected my other business that was making money, just because of GV. It was my mistake not to have investigated them properly.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

      Sam,

      I believe you are correct. But, I have to say when you are the CEO of a company, you need to sign the company song. And if the song is to far off key, then you had better quit the choir, which seems to be what happened.

      I'm not sure we will ever know for sure what happened, but this does stir the pot just a little bit. It will be interesting to see what comes of this.

    • Partners

      Hey Sam and WOW!

      We thought the exact SAME THING! NOW people HAVE their THINKING CAPS ON for sure!
      After ALL …isn't it better to just simply MOVE ONWARD than to sink oneself in the "oh so obvious" quicksand of GV? NO ONE could possibly muddle through all this mess even IF they had laser-mind-vision!

      TIME TO LET IT GO FOLKS! They say a GOOD company realizes it's mistakes and does better BUT … a GREAT company REALIZES it's mistakes and LEARNS from them!

    • Flash Gordon

      I too neglected my other business that I was making money with to do GV. Not anymore. I should have done my homework too. I believed my upline and that " all the top leadership must have already done the research work before they got in" sales pitch that was feed to most of us. I hope they are arrested for this, too many people have been hurt by this scam and it has reflected badly on the MLM indusrty. I also remember Steve actions were not too innocent either, if memory serves me correctly. I got out, my friends and family got out and I hope and pray that GV will be shut down once and for all.

    • Flash Gordon

      I too neglected my other business that I was making money with to do GV. Not anymore. I should have done my homework too. I believed my upline and that " all the top leadership must have already done the research work before they got in" sales pitch that was feed to most of us. I hope they are arrested for this, too many people have been hurt by this scam and it has reflected badly on the MLM indusrty. I also remember Steve actions were not too innocent either, if memory serves me correctly. I got out, my friends and family got out and I hope and pray that GV will be shut down once and for all.

    • http://www.eaglessoar.mywirelessrep Les Rekeweg

      Sam,
      I do appreciate your comments. I think checking out a company is critical as there are many "wantabees" out there that don't have stable footing and fly initially on hope, but no substance.
      I am a retired physician from Indiana an love MLM. I am working with a 16 yr old full service telecom company that recently acquired the only wholesale agreements ever in the 20 yr history of wireless, with bot Verizon and Sprint. We just launched International wireless calling $9.99/mnth.-no contract-roll over minutes.Company went public 2/20. Check out http://www.trylightyear.com. Very lucrative compensation plan. I am bulding. I would love to have your opinion. Thank you.
      Dr Les Rekeweg
      Senior V-P, Nat'l Mktg Dir
      260-580-6050

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/judles judles

      Sam,
      I appreciate your comments and I agree about checking out a company. I am a retired physician from Indiana and have been involved with a very solid 16 yr old telecom company that recently acquired the first and only wholesale wireless agreements ever with both Verizon and Sprint. We just lauched an international wireless calling plan that is unequalled. The company just went public 2/20. Compensation plan is very lucrative. http://www.trylightyear.com is a great company overview.Iam bulding a team. I would love your opinion.
      Dr Les Rekeweg
      Senior V-P, Nat'l Mktg Dir
      260-580-6050

  • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

    And thats the rest of the story.

    • gumper99

      how long wiil you stay with pather? I hope you do activations faster for them than you did for global? How many stores do you have? remember what comes around goes around. i hope you dont screw Harry, Bill & Kevin. although if you google Kevin hes not lilly white.

      Best wishes with Panther… you might flourish with them. I hope so for there sake.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        Gumper99,

        These are old questions. If you read through some of the comments here in the community on other GV posts, you will see Chris has answered most of your concerns.

      • Partners

        Gumper99,

        Chris is only part of the story BUT …he's the GOOD PART! Why chastise Chris when it's GV that's done ALL the harm to both Chris and others in GV? We don't get ANYONE that has a beef with those who have TRIED and ACCOMPLISHED PROVIDING PHONES & SERVICES when GV DID NOT!

        Regarding being …"lily white" …Theres NOT a shred of truth in ANYONE claiming to be "lily white" in this industry, let alone LIFE these days and IN this economy! PLEASE remember the saying " but for the grace of God …there go I" …that DOES NOT apply to willful, intentional, greedy people that care less about others!

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

          Partners,

          Excellent point. It doesn't matter if it is Chris, Steve, Teresa, Craig, or any other person who is not a stockholder, board member, or founder of the company. At the end of the day, the buck stops with the Founders. Leaders always take responsibility for the failures and give all the credit for the successes to their teams.

          I have yet to see this happen in the last 10 years with Ted and Mark.

  • http://hbiznews.com Micah

    Hey man…

    I wonder if those GV attorneys and planning a cease and decist letter for Godaddy demanding that they retract this email…

    Keep it up my friend!

    Micah

    • http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2004/06/07/daily15.html James Garcia

      Hello Micha, I spent the last 7 months waiting and working very hard to make some extra money with GV, I spent lots of money in marketing, paying for my brochures, making calls and creating a big phone bill to get people into GV. Giving GV our last dollar just to make our Auto-Ship instead of buying food to put on our table because we were so excited about this business ONLY to get kicked in the Ass by Ted and Mark! I am so so mad and just to let you know that sense all this happened I have not been able to sleep! ! I can't sleep my GOD!! I'm so angry and I try to pray to try to "forgive them for the evil things that they are still doing to those that still have hope for GV.

      NOW I KNOW THAT ALL THIS IS TRUE AND THAT THE BOAT IS SINKING AND ITS GOING DOWN FAST! This letter that was put up today says it all !! Today is a new day and Ted & Mark your going down with your Boat!

      There is going to be a Major Law Suit and I want to be there when they arrest Ted and Mark! I'M GOING TO BE IN THAT COURT ROOM AND WE WANT TO SEE THEM PUNISHED! I'm so angry that I ca't spell right!
      My recent post KV Pharmaceutical chief accounting officer resigns

      • Patti

        Hi James:

        I understand what you are saying about putting your last dollars into GV. I have been doing this since June. But, I must tell you that being angry isn`t the way to go. You won`t be able to move forward. You need to understand that when you violate probation, the penalty is great…….so, more lawsuits and violation of probation should exact the revenge that you seek.

        We must all be strong enough to just let it go and find an honourable company to do business with. From what I understand, there is something in the wind (telecommunications) whereby those of us that have been in GV & lost are concerned will be rewarded. I will let you know when I have more details.

        Sorry for your loss and the losses of all the other “sheep“ who were led to slaughter.

        • Global Verge Victim

          Patti

          Be very careful or you just might be jumping off of one sinking ship onto another !
          The honourable company you speak of is being run by the very same people that have been
          recruiting all of us on to the GV ship !
          I myself am about fed up with all of these mlm cell phone company's
          ( Is there even one MLM out there that is real and true and has a good service and $$ making opportunity ! ).
          Take care and good luck

          • wowmobileman

            Yes there is a good one who pays every week and has tethering to laptops just like all the GV reps have been saying for many many months. No data caps. Just look
            bit.ly/4vWYm1

          • wowmobileman
          • Global Verge Victim

            Hello wowmobileman
            I went to your site and was let down again, i could not watch any video or find any info on the comp plan, i could not order a phone or service from this site !
            I guess wow mobile is not set up to sell to the plublic from a rep's web site ?
            That is what i am looking for is to get a good unlimited everything plan and to be able to sell to the public from my web site.
            Guess i will keep looking !!
            Good luck

          • http://www.wowmobilecellular.com/my4girls wowmobileman

            Just ask Troy how Wowmobile is. He has been using the phone for well over a month with no trouble at all. The proof is in the pudding. We have actually everything you were promoting and never had. It is so refreshing to promote a company that has what they say they have. Good luck getting your reputation back after promoting a Scam so long.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

            I can stay the service has been great. Now I have not had to call customer service or tech support with any questions. But from what I hear both customer service and tech support are US based, so it has to be better than the hour I was on the phone on hold last week, waiting to talk to an eFax rep, who I learn is in India and can't answer my question. He haded me to call back when he could patch me back to a US based rep.

          • countrybill

            yes patti there is one fdi have the solution give me a call 504-273-6949

      • Larry PalmBeach

        James, Don't beat yourself up! You don't have the problems…now Mark & Ted (there may be others also) have the problems, BIG TIME! If you need to talk it through I'd be please to talk to you or anyone else over the phone.

        • http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2004/06/07/daily15.html James Garcia

          Yes and Thanks for your concerns. I know that time heals and talking about it really helps people with anger about GV. If I need your help, I'll be the first to contact you. God Bless and again, thanks for the offer.
          My recent post Nestlé gives $280,000 to Meds & Food for Kids for Haiti

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Micah_Collins Micah_Collins

    Hey man…

    Sorry if this posts twice… minor hiccup on my end…

    I'm wondering if the GV attorneys are planning a cease and desist letter for Godaddy demanding that they delete this email…

    Keep Swinging my friend!

    Micah

  • Partners

    NOT SO OH WOW!

    Folks – IF in fact this is THE TRUTH of what really did happen – then hurrah for Teresa, Steve and Warren! If on the other hand THIS IS a case of the TRUTH getting TOO CLOSE then …there's going to be alot of FIELD to HOE! This IS NOT just HAPPENSTANCE …THIS WAS A PLANNED deal! Notice in the "Open Letter" Terresa (or whomever actually wrote this open letter) spells it all OUT as it happened in someones living room in Las Vegas?

    FOLKS – TIME to GET OVER IT – IT HAPPENED! Having been there since June 2009 – THE SEQUENCE of EVENTS FITS almost perfectly. THERE ARE SOME statements that would require MORE in terms of actual research and discovery but AGAIN …WHO CARES? IF these people were willing to go the distance AT ANY COST to gain the monies they gained and then SKIP OUT on everyone …THEY DESERVE whatever they get period!

    SURELY we can ALL MOVE FORWARD and GET OVER THIS TOGETHER!

    • guest

      get over it… i wanna kick thei ass! How many other honest hard working people like myself are hundred or even thousands of dollars because of this B.S.

      • guest2

        ME! I did radio, rented meeting rooms and more…

        • Comar

          Don't worry about that Guest come on over to WOW mobile email me lamarco14@yahoo.com for more info. refer 3 and it's free.

      • Partners

        Guest …

        AMEN to your comment! We feel the same but ..we ALSO KNOW that it does NO GOOD to keep going over and over what's going on and what happened! SURELY EVERYONE is P.O'ed enough already – WE ARE ALSO!

        All we're saying is LET's ALL GET ON with doing A BUSINESS and BEING IN PROFIT – ENOUGH HARM HAS BEEN DONE and SURELY MORE WILL BE DONE – THE MORE we talk about these DISHONEST & UNETHICAL people – THE MORE we're ALL STILL a PART OF IT!

        SURELY we can find other things to do – YES IT HURTS and IT HURTS BAD but …LET THEM SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of THEIR BAD ACTIONS and LET US ALL MOVE ON & BEYOND THEIR TRICKERY and PROFIT and LET THEM WORRY about HOW THEY are going to get their credibility BACK with anyone!

  • http://www.HowToTakeCharge.com Kenny Atcheson

    Although their is a lot of anger I hope that everyone can put it behind them and succeed anyway. The important thing is to get back on the horse as soon as possible and NOT sit and stir in the anger, lies, and so on. It does not good. However, consider it a learning experience, find a new company to build a business LONG-TERM and research that company. Start right here with MLMHelpdesk and check out what Rod Cook has to say and go for it. There are some other watch dogs for the industry but the often seem to have an agenda so be careful of that. As Troy says, "See you at the top."

    • Partners

      Kenny Atcheson …

      THANK YOU and …AMEN!

    • http://www.eaglessoar.mywirelessrep.com Les Rekeweg

      Kenny,
      I read your response and I agree with doing your research. I am a retired physician from Indiana and love MLM. I have been involved for 5 years with a 16 yr old telecom company that recently acquired the only wholesale agreements ever in the 20 yr history of wireless. We are full service, local, our own Voip, business services, just launched internatonal wireless calling-$9.99/mnth-ex:1000 min-Mexico,China,Russia,UK,Australia to name a few. Company just went public 2/20. Compensation plan is very lucrative. Check out <a href="http://www.trylightyear.com.” target=”_blank”>www.trylightyear.com. I am building a team. Let me know if interested. Thank you.
      Dr Les Rekeweg
      Senor V-P, Nat'l Mktg Dir
      260-580-6050

  • http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2004/06/07/daily15.html James Garcia

    The Need To Vent And Blow Our Steam Is Our God Given Right! No one is going to tell me to just get over it ! It takes time. Some might need more time then others, to get over this crap that GV done to all of us honest hard working people! i have no more money to start an other business because i spent it all with GV.

    I will get over this in MY Time! Not Yours! I'm sure there are lots of people that might agree with me here. Thanks Troy for letting me VENT!
    My recent post KV Pharmaceutical chief accounting officer resigns

    • Partners

      James Garcia …

      YOU ARE of course RIGHT! NO ONE here is trying to tell people to GET OVER IT! WE RESPECT YOU and everyone else that is going through this!

      What WE ARE trying to say is that the LONGER WE DEAL with these UNTRUTHS and BURDEN OURSELVES with WHAT THEY ARE DOING – the MORE HARM we are doing to OUR OWN SELVES! SURELY …WE CAN go on AND DO BETTER THINGS!

      There IS a saying .. LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE!" In THIS case – the sleeping dogs ARE GV Corporates – DON'T ANYONE DARE LET THEM LIE! GIVE THE TRUTH where THE TRUTH MATTERS! THESE ARE people IN CORPORATE or CLOSE TO CORPORATE that NEED TO LEARN NOT to treat other people this way …NO MATTER WHAT!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        Partners,

        Great comment! This life changing even ranks in the hearts of some just like 9/11 does or those who has lost someone close to a MIA/POW situation. None of us should ever forget this situation. We should use it as a turning point, so we dig a little deeper in advance, and don't get caught up in the hype.

        It is situation like this which does one of two things to a team… They become closer, or it rips them apart. My personal prayer is that teams stay together and find a new home. It doesn't matter if it is inside of MLM wireless or another niche, but together they will be able to find a good company, look everything over, then present the company with what they desire before the join.

        I would also strongly suggest everyone join

        If the content on this open letter is true then Ted and Mark have serious legal problems. They have exposure to Jail Tme plus a Fraud investigation that will expose the money trail (that means you're giving thr money back). If you think the GV e associates have problems, they pail in comparison to Mark's and Ted's. Again if the contents are true….Mark & Ted have a nice day!

        • Partners

          Larry @ Palm Beach …

          THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE LEGAL PROBLEMS! THEY are going to have such problems as EXPLAINING WHERE the money went and HOW THEY SPENT IT! THEIR (GV) BIGGEST Problem IS PAYING BACK ALL THE PEOPLE THEY SCAMMED!

      • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

        Just want want to let everyone Know Global Group Made it official, and will be working with Telemedium, And a group out of North Carolina, Just so I am Clear, Yes VOIP IS A PRODUCT IT IS COMMUNICATIONS, But it is not MOBILE and that is where the money is But hey now I have some competition, But if they run the company as blind as they put up with the GV madness then well we know where that will all go, Same place, So I hope that the GV associates see who has a viable and real product and make the right choice, the only MLM companies that have VIABLE cellular service NOW is WOW Mobile, And Panther Mobile, and GI Connect has the VOIP phone, I am not kidding when I tell you on the calls I am a pit bull when it comes to communications, I will continue to push hard for Our distributors, Oh and Boost Mobile and Ptel comes online next, As well as we are officially launching Rogers in canada with us, HMMM, Global Group, Voip, Panther, Air Voice, Simple Mobile, Page Plus, Mobile Pro, Omni, International Roaming on Wireless for 1.9 cents a min in 94%of countries, Hmmmm, not tooting my own horn, But with Boost and Ptel and Xtreme Mobile coming on line here, thats 10 Mobile Wireless Products, With our Own VOIP SYSTEM, Free access to unlock i phones, Real (REAL) communications training, So the way I see it, GG has ALOT of catching up to do, and further, by the end of march panther will have 27 Wireless Products World Wide, So catch us if you can. Thats all I can say, Oh and we actually dont mute our calls GG, we are open to the field good and bad no excuses.

        Chris Greco
        http://www.panthermobile.net
        http://www.panthermobile.com
        http://www.unlimitedwizard.com

        • wowmobileman

          Is it Telemedium located in TEXAS
          TeleMedium Corporation
          1231 N. Glenville Drive
          Richardson, TX 75081

          Phone (214) 556-4049
          Fax (214) 556-4052

        • Global Verge Victim

          Chris
          I can't find on your panther site where someone can just order/sign up on the phone service !
          I did find where i could order a phone, so can the public go to a panther rep site and just order cell service or am i missing something ?
          Thanks

          • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

            Go to the "sign up now" tab on the left top, and it will bring all the service and builder options.
            Click on the service you like and complete the form below. Make sure you have your phone info ready, prety much that simple.

            • Partners

              Hey Sam!

              SMALL correction: The SIGN UP NOW tab is on the RIGHT TOP. No problem, we all make mistakes in our enthusiam to HELP others!

          • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

            yes they can, just click reactivate or start service

          • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

            Go to "sign up now" in the top left of the site. It will have all the phone plans and rep plans as well.

      • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

        [polldaddy 2729144 http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/2729144/ polldaddy]

        Thanks
        Chris Greco

      • Wheel of Failure

        Perhaps Steve & Teressa's deal at Televerus is not working out…
        Wow Mobile is the new Buzz of the wireless industry.
        Sure they took their GV reps when they left the only prob is they did not get all of them…
        My opinion…Global Verge is going down, also Steve would not be doing this if things were great at Televerus.
        Is this is just another attempt to recruit the remaining GV reps to help televerus?.
        Steve's is obviously upset he did not get his paid money by GV or retain his reps.
        What does Dave Manning think of all this….his Wireless Leader going at GV !, Sure he knows, or perhaps Steve would be out of a job.. Is it a organized coup?, who's paying the lawyers?
        Do they own the attorneys?… who will get the money anyway!…is this is just a way to get the money before the courts divvy up whats left…to the reps?.
        Mean while Frank is still on tour selling what ???

        • Partners

          Wheel of Failure …

          You ask great questions. One MUST wonder WHY after all the complacency about GV …WHY DID THEY STAY? That would include ANYONE that signed on to the INSIDE in the beginning for ANY amount of money. That would include the founders of GG who have consistently maintained the validity of GV and NOW are leaving to start their own company? That would include all of us that stood by to a point and listened to their rhetoric and unprovided promises.

          You probably HAVE SEEN the letters from GG coming out today. NO ONE is happy how this is going down and that many, many, MANY people HAVE BEEN HARMED by their actions! We say: NO worries. Whatever they start (over or inclusive of others in corporate) likely won't survive the VERY PUBLIC negativity regarding GV and THEIR membership and involvement with them. Talk about TRUST …who in their right mind would engage in anything else with THESE people!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gumper7788 Gumper7788

        I dont know thw whole story … but i can tell you i was in Buzzirk mobile when Steve was acting CEO, He asked everyone to sen him emails to get a better handle of the company, It is my opinion he knew him and theresa were leaving buzzirk ana he wanted to build his database before he went to Televerus.____I also know people who have told me steve contacted them to get into Televerus. It just seemed a little shady to me. that him taking these emails might have helped him at Televerus. Stve and Theresa might be great people.____I can tell you they were in Buzzirk and looked what happened and jumped to TeleVerus and I hear they arent doing well :( I happen to like Mr Manning. I have been in networking for about a year and a half and its very cut throat.____I can tell you one thing from my heart I would never be in a company with Steve Lewis or Theresa Curtis. Im my opinion its an ethical decsion. How ever I do wish them well.____I can tell you im with wow mobile now and very happy and doing well. We have a smart business leader who runs a great company but has come out with a plan to help our returning veterans.____and thats the rest of my story …. good day!____

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

          Gumper7788,

          Steve & Teresa were running the company and Teresa was sending out emails, they had access to the complete database and did not need folks sending them emails.

          What is the issue with Steve being "terminated" from GV and going to a competing company, as long as he did not sign a NON-Compete?

          They may not be doing well at TelaVerus because like GV TeleVerus had to change the focus and move towards more traditional wireless services.

          I know David Manning personally, and he is one of the most ethical men I have the privilege of knowing. I do understand your position, but sometimes we all make mistakes. Although some folks just keep sinning over and over.

        • Partners

          Gumper7788,

          There were many, many others in GV with high held positions that cross-promoted to people they had not personally sponsored to put them in other companies not having anything to do with GV. Fact is …it's a shame that ADULTS don't have INTEGRITY, ETHICS and that they can't seem to find a way to TELL the TRUTH when the chips are GOING DOWN! Let's site: …"All we need to know about life and living …we learned in kindergarten"! Don't Lie, Don't Hit, Don't Steal etc., …!!

          IT IS TIME to MOVE BEYOND THIS ..MOVE FORWARD & ONWARD to BETTER THINGS! We will NO Doubt HEAR ALL the issues in time BUT …IT DOES NOT have to TAKE away ALL our FOCUS in earning money for ourselves and doing it in the RIGHT WAY so that there is NO HARM done to others!

          We ARE SO SORRY for ANYONE HARMED – THIS SHOULD NEVER have happened this way!

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

            Partners,

            Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this how GV launched? It was with folks being cross recruited out of their primary companies into GV? This looks like a track record to me. In researching most of the vocal leaders, they are all either currently in other companies, or were in other companies when they came to GV.

            Now, I know we can debate "multiple streams of income all day long" but this is one of the reasons I teach people to find one company with multiple streams, then to try and build multiple companies.

            • Partners

              Hey Troy!

              You're RIGHT on the mark here! GV Launched off the mattress's of what eVerge did and failed at! There WERE and STILL ARE people from BOTH companies tied together that CROSS promoted in order to EXPAND and BUILD QUICKLY the downlines of Global Verge!

              Now we're NOT so blind as to think they did ANYTHING right after the downfall of eVerge. It's obvious and CLEAR to see they continued their same methods and concepts and created yet ANOTHER NEW company with which people who were there in the beginning of the FIRST ONE (eVerge) benefitted handsomely from what was done AFTER the fact with Global Verge!

              You're also CORRECT about the debate regarding "multiple streams of income" all day long! The problem there lies soley with something called EXPERIENCE & KNOWLEDGE and NOT with all the bodies and heads popped in-toward something ONLY to benefit financially!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gumper7788 Gumper7788

        i was in GV when Steve was CEO…. He had asked the E associates to send in emails on how to improve things…or so we were led to believe. Very shortly rumor has is that Steve was gone withe the database and emails… Low and behold Steve popped up at TeleVerus. This is just speculation but i wonder what story he tol Mr Manning. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall.

        Numrerous associates of mine said they were approached by Steve to leave GV and go to TeleVerus.
        I dont not for sure if he had the database but a bit suspicious.

        All I can say is Steve was involved e with Zero0 and GV and I hear Televerus isnt doing very well and he was in both businesses. Steve might be a great guy and i know an avid fisherman.

        I just would personally never be in a business in which he was at the helm.

        I wish him the best and of course what goes around comes around and I pray for all of them
        and sure everyone will learn something as result of this.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

          Gumper99,

          You make a great point. However, in his open letter he is very clear they already sat on top of over 30K worth of the downline. They would have already had that database. Plus since Teresa had sent several emails and had access to the main database, I don't think he needed folks to send him emails to get the database.

          I have talked to David, and know the story he told. Although it is private and off the record, and I can say it does line up with this open letter. By the way I talked to David way back when Steve made the move.

          You do bring up some great points, some we had already thought about.

      • Dunn4

        Why don't we just ask Mark … not that he'd respond anyway

        Mark Petschel
        Co-Founder
        Global Verge Incorporated
        (816) 256-3595
        mark@globalverge.com
        http://www.globalverge.com
        200 NE Missouri Rd Suite 202

        Lees Summit MO 64086

        • _Arthur

          I think Mark P lives and work from Kansas City, not from the suite in Lees Summit.

        • Partners

          Dunn4 …

          WHY DON'T WE ALL ASK the MISSOURI, NEVADA and KANSAS Attorney General? WE NEED TO ASK THEM ALL!

      • Bob NY

        A couple of interesting notes. Although I bailed on this a long time ago I still get all the emails. Last night I got one from Global Group, supposedly 25,000 strong, sayng: !!! A NEW BEGINNING IS COMING FOR ALL MEMBERS OF GLOBAL GROUP !!! What we have all toiled for, for nine long months will not be in vain because the leaders of Global Group have been working tirelessly and have created the long term solution that we have courageously struggled for. A long-term solution with a credible, established and professional management team…. A team with massive resources pouring in to develop what we have always wanted…. THE COMP PLAN WE ALL WANT…. THE MOBILE PLANS WE ALL WANT… THE CUTTING EDGE PRODUCTS WE ALL WANT… THE LEADERSHIP WE ALL WANT… Looks like they finally got the message……Talk about slowwwwwww.

      • Bob NY

        Second, the latest email from Terrible Ted. last night says:

        Hello Associates, We would like to inform you that due to a system upgrade this afternoon and over the weekend, the office phones will not be working. We wish you all a wonderful weekend. Thank you Ted Robbins President; GlobalVerge
        Given the letter from Steve and Theresa and the fact that it looks like the big triple diamonds are bailing I wonder (and hope) if they finally pulling the plug, turning out the lights and heading for the hills. It's going to happen sooner or later and the sooner this ends the better. BTW. I would think long and hard about following these big names anywhere. If they had YOUR interests at heart they would ave bailed a very long time ago. That's just my opinion but it seems to me that these once respected names just hung on as long as they could keep cashing checks. Now that THEY aren't getting any checks it's time to leave. Thye did not care that no one else was getting anything.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

          I find this interesting. I know there are still antiquated systems out there, but in this case GV is located in a fairly new building with new technology. Maybe they just need time off to relax from all the phone calls during the week.

      • David

        I say a nice big Class Action Lawsuit is in order here, Anyone care to head it up? Ill be the first to join it.
        Lets get these lowlife bastards, and get most of the money back that we spent on these scam artist.

        • wowmobileman

          Are going to have a class Action with Global Group for promoting the GV SCAM<??

          • Partners

            Hey wowmobileman!

            We would certainly HOPE that those from Global Group — FOUNDERS INCLUDED wouldl experience the SAME LEGAL ISSUES as those at the top of the company! After ALL …THEY WERE the ones PUSHING this company to others and FIELDING THE COMPANY CALLS "as if" THEY were in charge TOO of the entirety of the company mandate!

            You make a GOOD POINT here!

      • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

        Troy Just wanted to say I just got the Email from Global Group they Confirm what I said earlier, We cut them Off for non payment, So it is what it is, I am glad the leaders finally have stood up and seen this for themselves or did the right thing, Will be interesting to see how they are going to activate sim cards registered to activation king wireless and unlimited wizard cellular.

      • Russell

        My heart goes out to all the GV members, for I was with them from June till early December. And have been following since. For those that share that we need to get over it and move on. There is truth on that, but don't you believe we have a right to express our experience? Come on now, be real!

        Many people have lost thousands of dollars…in the 'hopes' of a company, the owners knew was not going anywhere. I understand that we need to take ownership in our own decision making. At this time of the worlds situation, we all look to creative ways to increase our Financial Means. And take a risk to accomplish this.

        I commend those of you that stood, with blind faith, that GV could come back, and make good on there promises. Unfortunately they failed and brought honest, hard working people along. My prayer is that God will heal this womb and help them back to the right path.

        Much love from an ex GV member. And if ever you need to vent some more…here is my email address russell.brown05@gmail.com

        • Partners

          Hey Russell!

          OUR HEARTS go out to EVERYONE that was HARMED by this TRAGEDY with Global Verge, it's Coporates and ANYONE ELSE or Distributor that VALIDATED the lies being told!

          Of course WE BELIEVE that EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT to express their feeings, emotions and harm done! WE ALSO BELIEVE that the NEGATIVITY that comes from OPEN and PUBLIC expression has to FALL SOMEPLACE and it GENERALLY FALLS ON the people who WOULD OTHERWISE be joining others in a NEW VENTURE wether or not its CURRENT or FUTURE and MOST especially the downlines who ARE the very SPIRIT and SOUL of our business's!

          We've ALWAYS taught that NEGATIVITY is LIKE A CANCER …IT SPREADS! NONE of us SHOULD HAVE to BE QUITE and NOT EXPRESS our HURT and DISAPPOINTMENT BUT …ALL WE ARE SAYING IS, let's all do so in such a MANNER THAT DOESN'T DO MORE HARM!

          Wether or not we EXPRESS OURSELVES privately or publicly …MOVING FORWARD and ONWARD is the MOST IMPORTANT for ALL of us!

      • http://mlmselectionsecrets.com Paul Douglas

        Well this has definitely become a rather intriguing development.

        As most people in this community by now know, I have been a staunch supporter and defender of GV. But, I see a few things that raise a few more red flags. The largest organization in GV, Global Group has sent some interesting emails over the last two days. Although unconfirmed, I suspect the leadership of this organization are about to bolt.

        The biggest clue that fuels my suspicion (again, this is my theory based on the little info I have) is that the teamgg.com calendar has been cleared of all upcoming events. There are others, but this is my biggest red flag.

        My suggestion for GV e-associates that lurk here.

        Cancel your autoship and delete your payment info from the back office. Do not cancel your membership. This minimizes your risk in two ways.

        One, if the ship sinks, you will no longer pay to watch it go down.

        Two, if GV does get it together and delivers as promised the products we have been waiting for, you will not have to wait six months to re-join.

        Now before the chorus of self righteous "I told ya so's" ring out, I will publicly state that I will be the first to admit I was wrong, should my suspicions be correct and the leadership is bolting. I will also publicly apologize to Chris Greco for all the grief I gave him on this forum, with the exception of my getting on his case for privacy violations. And finally I will ask for suggestions on how best prepare crow for eating :D , as it appears I may be feasting on the big black bird in the near future.

        [polldaddy 2733386 http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/2733386/ polldaddy]
        My recent post So You Think Network Marketing Is Tough?

      • chris greco

        So Global Verge Comes to an End, Well at least no more distributors will be burned by them, My only concern now is this, Since frank is doing his own thing, Why did it take this long? And Why Now? AKW severed ties 30 days ago, Is it because they saw the Lawsuit, Is is because the commissions checks got smaller and smaller, or stopped all together? What is it? My only Concern is from what I am hearing there is no mobile product, and there is only a VOIP, product, We will have to see, I just hope that Jan Johnson now does the right thing and brings her group and the people that depend on her to

        • Excited Again!

          Chris, you don't have to be concerned as what you have heard is incorrect. The new company has a whole lot more than VOIP. On second thought, maybe you should be concerned!!!

        • Excited Again!

          'My only Concern is from what I am hearing there is no mobile product, and there is only a VOIP, product'

          Don't be concerned, Chris, what you heard was wrong. There's a whole lot more than VoIP. On second thought, maybe you better be concerned!!!

        • Excited Again!

          'My only Concern is from what I am hearing there is no mobile product, and there is only a VOIP, product'

          Chris, what you heard was incorrect. There is a whole lot more than VoIP. I would think that would concern you more!!!

          • _Arthur

            If I remember correctly, Global Verge once boasted they were distributing 400,000 products.

            So, if the phone plans thingie is a bust, they still have 399,999 other products to peddle.

            Didn't they announce NEW WATER MACHINES earlier this month ? Can I haz pictures of the new ones ? I already have pix of the old ones.

          • Partners

            Excited Again!

            Wow! Three times you've posted the same comment – maybe a mistake but your point has been noted. Now about your opinion of …"a whole lot more than Voip" …doesn't it even sound a little strange to you the oh so obvious time lines with eVerge to Global Verge all with the same people involved and now on to Global Group and their NewCo now RENAMED "People Helping People, Inc." …??? If history tells the story (and it does), this is merely yet another attempt to keep the monies flowing to WHO KNOWS WHO (?) and nothing more!

            AGAIN IF history tells the story …HERE THEY GO AGAIN! It will take a minimum of 2 1'2 years for them to come up with ALL the proper filings, equipment, providers etc., to even BEGIN another new Telcom Company, not to mention ALL the work, TIME and effort that bombed in the LAST 2 attempts!

            In the meantime they're going to take all the monies from the people that PRE-register, then MONTHLY monies and WHO KNOWS IF they'll actually even GET OFF THE GROUND .. ARE YOU REALLY READY for MORE of the SAME ol' – SAME ol' …???

        • steelseller

          When you were at global verge, you made promises, you were on calls, you made video's all on behalf of Global verge. Now you are tooting your own horn about your own companies whatever they are. Why should anyone believe anything you say, as far as I am concerned, you lost all your credibility with your association with Global verge. You lied to me and I have all the e mails to prove it. You should get out of the business before you take more people down.

      • chris greco

        a place that can produce, Of course Ill say panther, But there are other options Id be lying if I said otherwise, So its all on you Jan Johnson, This all Ends with you, I hope you make the right decision and make the move, And I hope everyone does file suit to get their money back if there is any left for what happened, And I hope that everyone remembers GLOBAL VERGE and the leaders that made this move, and the ones that stayed, SO WHEN IT ALL FALLS APART THEY will have no where to go, and further Jan your reputation will be so damaged you wont be able to move forward, So I implore you, Make the right move and do the right thing, not by you but by the people that depend on you Jan. That being said I want everyone to Know that Canada is being Launched, and We are launching Are unlimited Talk Text Web and Walkie Talkie Blackberry 8350i and Tethering for only 49.99, So thats the standard, So I invite everyone to try to compete and beat it!

        • Jim

          Chris,

          Can Panther Mobile have their conference calls recorded an place on their website?

          Thanks-Jim

          • http://www.samCFL.com Sam Cleaver

            The Saturday call is linked in the back office, I'm not sure if it is in the front link. Chris's call is on the unlimitedwizard site.

          • http://www.panthermobile.com/pimktg Partners

            Hey Jim!

            Panther Mobile has just begun placing their recorded calls on their website in the back offices! Eventually soon there WILL BE a call posted on the website main page itself and that's a GREAT IDEA! If you have suggestions PLEASE feel free to click on the support / help button on the main page and MAKE YOUR SUGGESTION! Panther Mobile IS in fact an OPEN COMPANY in that it's CORPORATE LEADERS ARE OPEN to NEW IDEAS and SUGGESTIONS!

      • David Adams

        I must say with all that has taken place and learned. I SURE DO HAVE A NEW APPRECIATION FOR BLOGS. A HUGE thank you to all that participate in them. It does appear that we all benefit and can learn from a Scam Alert. After all the alert is a warning sign, perhaps a question of ones policy's and procedure's and offers a degree of protection. With comments shared, both pro and con. Does it not allow us the wisdom of others or lack of it to better assure ourselves we are on the right road. Perhaps it allows the help needed for a company to make the necessary changes that will allow success, allowing the team the opportunity to be all they can be so we can be good stewards of all that is trusted to us.
        We all are accountable, Are we not.
        Let do it well and I will borrow the words from a friend. Lets all have an Epic Adventure

      • http://mlmselectionsecrets.com Paul Douglas
        • Partners

          Hey Paul!

          THANK YOU for sharing such an inspirational and phenomenal story! This story hits the nail sqaurely on the head as far as what one goes through to have any success in life. It's like a saying we once heard …"If the mountain were easy to climb – it wouldn't have ridges!" Business is much the same way and for most a difficult climb but sticking to it, not allowing your focus to be distracted and as a lot of us are finding out – being very careful about doing ones research in TOTAL BEFORE they jump into what seems to be clear waters! Thanks again for a wonderful story and sharing it for all to read!

        • Partners

          Hey Paul!

          Don't worry – Crow is not bad on Barbequed, and a lot of us have had to eat it lately. So …don't feel alone because you're truly not!

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

            Hey some of us Southern boys like a little crow on our possum. It's best fresh. You can find it most early mornings driving down the back roads. Or just stop by Roadside Kill BBQ.

            I'm there most week days for one thing or another.

      • Casper

        I would like to see that Frank Varon and the other so called leaders like Jim Helman, Ruth, Jan Johnson pay dearly as well as Mark and Ted. Here was an email that was sent out that is very powerful:

        This is a letter written by Wavey Lester that expresses the feelings of so many of our members. The letter was addressed to Jan, Ted, Mark and Ruth and was never replied to.

        !!! BRAVO WAVEY !!!

        Jan,
        I have to ask you…honestly, are you a lady of integrity and do you actually care about people??
        If so, read this!
        Also if you really do care, level with me, are you and your reps really as excited as you say and would like us to believe? Do you not have the issues that everyone else is experiencing??
        Is your business really going as well as you make it sound? OURS IS NOT!!!

        Do you not realize the extent of the damage that you all have caused to the lives of thousands week after week and month after month?!?!
        Do you know how many times we trusted what you said to us (that we then told to the people who used to trust us)…only to end up with egg in our faces again and again!
        DO YOU PEOPLE EVEN CARE!!!???
        There are people in the field now losing their homes because they believed that GV would do what it said it would do. Out of the hundreds of associates we had, we only have a handful of active paying reps remaining! I have a list as long as the Great Wall of China of unfulfilled promises, promises that we repeated to people who respected us….and we actually received none of them!
        No pre-paid plans, post-paid plans, family plans, roadside assistance, mini laptops, no routers, air cards, etc.
        Everything has been "coming" in a few weeks now for months and months. DON'T YOU EVEN CARE?

        I personally visited GV HQ where I had Mark Petschel show me all the products that were not prototypes…routers, phones, usb air cards, etc.
        Forget cell phones for a moment and tell me why couldn't GV make those things available for the field….since they already existed?!?!
        Why did Jim Hellman tell us that he was making a video cellphone call from his Pharos 137 to his Nokia N97???
        Mark’s Pharos 137 somehow managed to run out of battery power on my 1st visit to KC, yeah RIGHT!!

        I offered several times to come to KC and help with the issues that should not have been happening…
        I guess I wasn’t as good as Steve Lewis and Chris Grecco…but look how well they worked out!!!
        Last week we were told again it's all "coming in 4-6 weeks". Today we are 2 months short of ONE FULL YEAR of "getting it together". How many companies in history have had
        A WHOLE YEAR’S WORTH OF START UP “BUMPS”??

        Last week a customer service rep finally admitted that GV is NOT an MVNO and that we are in fact using Simple Mobile and Page Plus. Wow!
        I never did get my SIM activated after trying for 4-5 weeks…so I gave up!
        Last week they admitted that the "Smartband Network" now can't support smart phones!!
        and today they SPUN it around to where we should thank them for giving out refunds on plans that they
        NEVER SHOULD HAVE CHARGED PEOPLE FOR because they KNEW Simple Mobile didn’t have such plans!!!!
        How nice of GV to launch a new incentives program which gives us a great way to spend more money buying discount certificates, that can then be used to spend even more money…
        WHILE WE CAN'T MAKE A DIME !!!
        How nice of GV to BLAME US and make it THE REPS FAULT that things went wrong saying, "We have been juggling so many balls and attempting to please everyone.
        This kind of action results in reacting to chaos and pleasing only the few. Thankfully we have turned to and relied on expert advice…" Wow!!
        Today, more and more of the same. “we are excited” … “we cant tell you what it is but it will blow your socks off” …
        “we have NDAs in place and we aren’t allowed to show you proof, but trust use we have contracts.”
        ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YOU DON'T CARE !!!
        You have treated your top leaders like children for months!
        You had a triple diamond call the other day and muted everyone out for the whole call while you and
        Ruth dictated and talked down to them about how important it was to not have people like me listening…WOW!
        GV up to this day has never even acknowledged all the regional events that your top leaders are spending their hard earned money on promoting for this company.
        It's not even on the company’s website ANYWHERE. How can that be????
        How can some of the leaders working the hardest in the field not even be invited to be a member of your advisory board while you praise “new guys” that have popped up out of nowhere???
        DO YOU EVEN CARE!!!???
        And last but not least, I hear through the grapevine that now you have begun to question your leaders loyalty and commitment due to the “rumors on the street.”
        People have families to feed…bills to pay…people to help….
        YOU, MARK, TED, JIM, RUTH, MELISSA…DO ANY OF YOU EVEN CARE???

      • jay

        Why do people think Wow mobile has any buzz? That get 3 and yours free is weak.. just using commissions to pay your bill. For me, fix your comp plan and stop hollering Free is king. I dont know anyone who got wealthy by shopping for free shit.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

          Jay,

          Since I am not in WOW I may be able to shed from 3rd party light on your question. The basis of MLM was built on getting your product or services for free. When you think about it a second, most critics state… 95% of people who join MLM never get their money back. Although that is a myth, the fact is at WOW people are not only getting them money back, they are making some money also.

          As for the compensation plan… it has worked for 10 years, and the reps have made some pretty solid income in some areas, and earned they money back in others.

      • Bryan

        Troy…Call the AG for crying out loud ! After all your here to protect the people RIGHT?
        Please this company needs to be shut down !…(its just another E Verge scam)

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

          Bryan,

          It's not me who makes the difference. It is each distributor filing a complaint with the AG. We have provided the links, now others have to do their part.

          • http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2004/06/07/daily15.html James Garcia

            Dear Troy,

            I'v done my part for sure, thank God !!

            As I Said if you go back to the next page, We'll See Them All In Court ! Its Going To Happen! So Stay Tuned Because Ted & Mark Are Going Down for ripping all of us off and Fraud ! This Is A Class Action Law Suit Material ! There are a few lawyers looking into GV right now as we speak, and they see they do have a probable cause for moving forward ! I want to be in the court room when it happens!
            My recent post St. Louis to apply for ultra-fast Google Internet network

          • Bryan

            My request can you post the link here…not sure were to look

            • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

              Yes you can

      • http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2004/06/07/daily15.html James Garcia

        Troy,

        I just called Mark P. and his recording picked up the phone. And asked him to please return all my money. If not? That I will see him in court! I also think that any one else who has lost money in this SCAM, call him and leave him a message and tell him how upset you all are, that he should return all our MONEY! If not, then we will see him in court soon!

        I did this this today: Time : 5:40 am PS 408-661-2920
        My recent post St. Louis to apply for ultra-fast Google Internet network

    • Andy Morbitzer

      It's been days since I had my last meal and I'm starving! I approach with caution and see the wolves filling their bellies with rancid meat. I look to the sky and see the vultures are circling. The smell is awful. The unknowing distributors bones and livelihood have been picked clean. The pack of wolves have moved on now to go overwhelm another unsuspected victim yes that's right YOU the lonely distributor. Folks when are you going to get it through your thick heads Telecom is DEAD for MLM. The ground is littered with carcasses FDI, Globile Mobile, Global Verge, Zer01, TeleVerus, VoIParty and the list goes on and on for the past decade. If you want a damn phone go to your local store. If you want to talk about REAL no BS opportunities then email me your info amorbitzer@wowway.com and no I don't sell wow mobile, wowway is my cable provider so that's my email address. Troy correct me if I'm wrong but if only 3 out of 5,000 MLM's worldwide make it past year three you damn well better know what your doing and who your doing business with. Learn from your mistakes and move forward people if you choose to stay in Telecom the vultures will always be circling. I see them in the distance now. I was going to post a video of this but thought it might be to graphic. LOL

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        Andy,

        Sadly your little tale rings true. I use to think the Christian community was the only community who killed off their wounded, but from what I have seen since January 1st 2010, the MLM community is quickly taking the #1 spot.

        I'm thinking we need to create a Reverse type of company where the stockholders are the distributors.

        Your numbers are a little off, but the context of the statement is true. And I agree 100%, people should take their time finding the right company.

        The following statement will be raw and uncut, but it is how I see this…

        Most distributors enter into a relationship with an upline or MLM company like they do a marriage. All the lust, excitement, hype, and blindness of the emotions, cause them to never slow down to see how things will be after the hot passionate honeymoon sex is over.

        Everything feels good, looks good, smells good, tastes good, then the lust wears off, the lights are turned on, and they find out, they married the wrong person.

        All of which could have been avoided, had they kept their clothes on in the first place and took their time to ask some specific questions, courted the person a little bit, got to know the family a little more, asked questions about other failied relationships, and just calmly took their time.

        Let's all use this latest in craziness as a learning experience we can share with others.

    • http://triniticomm.com/mybiz85257 Armando

      This may be or may not be for you but we always have to have a "Plan B" Feel free to contact me at any time. 602.723.6682

    • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

      From the president of GV
      …"Also, if your upline is leaving do not feel threatened or alone. As I have been stating over the past few weeks, we have never been more confident in our business and the opportunity that we have for you. I absolutely know that we are in the most positive position that we have ever been in. We clearly have exciting days ahead. More on this on Tuesday night?s corporate call."

    • leaving in droves?

      This kinda says it all…

      From: support@globalverge.com
      Subject: From The Desk Of The President Sunday February 21st

      Hello e-Associates,

      As I mentioned to you in last Wednesday?s communication, certain e-Associate members have decided to leave Global Verge to pursue another opportunity. We wish them well.

      However, as I also mentioned, we have received numerous calls and emails from current e-Associates who are upset about communications they have been receiving from some of these people. Those of you who are committed to your business will want to check our Policies and Procedures regarding cross recruiting. If you receive any emails that suggest you are being recruited or are slanderous in any way, do not hesitate to forward this information to us at compliance@globalverge.com so that we can take appropriate action

      Also, if your upline is leaving do not feel threatened or alone. As I have been stating over the past few weeks, we have never been more confident in our business and the opportunity that we have for you. I absolutely know that we are in the most positive position that we have ever been in. We clearly have exciting days ahead. More on this on Tuesday night?s corporate call.

      Have a great week

      Sincerely,

      Ted Robbins, President

      Global Verge

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        ROFLOL… Well let's see… If you leave the company, and go build something else, then what are they going to do, smack your hand? They sure won't sue anyone because they know through discovery they would have to open the books to prove who was in the company when.

        And, since so many people left before they every received commissions, what leg will they have to stand on.

        No on top of that, no where in their P&P does it say "We do not want you cross sponsoring from other companies" Which means in a court of law the respondents attorney is going to ask if they condoned the behavior of their former reps when they cross sponsored out of other companies?

        • _Arthur

          What are UnitedMobileReseller, and "Team GG" ? Are they affiliated with Global Verge ? Do they have an actual product to sell ?

        • Partners

          Hey Troy,

          Not to go against what you said about P&P but …you might want to check that again. Unless they've re-written their P&P's, this is what was there a month ago. No we don't still belong but we had a copy printed out and scanned this part in for everyone to see. Irrelevant parts are not included.

          3.10 Solicitation for Other Companies or Products:

          Continued Next Post …

          • Partners

            A) A GLOBALVERGE eAssociate may participate in other direct sales, multilevel, network marketing or relationship marketing business ventures or marketing opportunities. However, during the term of this Agreement, an GLOBALVERGE eAssociate may not recruit any GLOBALVERGE eAssociate or customer for any other direct sales or network marketing business, unless that eAassociate or customer was personally sponsored by such eAssociate.

            B) The term “recruit” means actual or attempted solicitation, enrollment, encouragement, or effort to influence in any other way (either directly or through a third party), another eAssociate or customer to enroll or participate in any direct sales or network marketing opportunity. This conduct represents recruiting even if the eAssociate’s actions are in response to an inquiry made by another eAssociate or customer.

            Continued Next Post …

            • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

              Partners,

              this is standard verbiage for most agreements. However, the question which will come up is who was the first to establish the relationship, the distributor through their online system, or GV? The next question will be was the person in question attracted to the online system or upline leader in general or just because of GV.

              This Friday on Aces Radio Live I will be interviewing Orrin Woodward, who left Amway a couple of years ago, and took 50K distributors with him. Amway one an arbitration suit against him and others of his leaders in the tune of $45 million dollars. The arbitration was a 180 degree turn from what a court upheld on another case, which made it clear the distributor has control of the database.

              So this could get interesting.

            • http://www.panthermobile.com/pimktg Partners

              Hey Troy!

              Your comment about the question as to who was the first to create a relationship in cross-promoting is a good one. The fact is: most who surf web-sites seeking something to do as a business are psychologically affected by several things …

              There ARE a LOT of people FOLLOW OTHER people generally because of the monies they've already made in marketing OR …by their notability in the industry. (not the best reason). As with MOST (if not all) CORPORATE MAIN websites – if a person JOINS on that MAIN Company website – they're either put into the system beneath someone in a randomly chosen or system / software chosen downline OR they become a PART OF the Corporate leg in the system.

              In any event – MORE OFTEN and USUALLY – there is NO way for a company to generally ENFORCE such policies as MOST MARKETERS are FREE Agents in WHAT they choose to do and UNLESS they're PART OF the CORPORATE principles – they ARE NOT bound by CORPORATE CONTRACT other than agreeing to Terms & Conditions which often state polices are open to change as necessary at any time.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

            Partners,

            My comment was a general statement not specific to GV. No worries on this end. I'll go read your other comments.

            • http://www.panthermobile.com/pimktg Partners

              Aww Troy!

              You're a true gem (in the U.S. Marine Rough) or not, ha! Fact is if it weren't for people like you carrying the midnight oil and making sure we are all safe wether it be in your community locally or here online – where WOULD we be without you!

              We appreciate everything you're doing to help out all distributors and direct sales people online for their business many times is not exclusive to online such as the wireless business for example.

              Wasn't trying to make this a "specific" comment re: GV …just wanted to throw it out there for everyone to see. There was in fact people upline and we're sure in other legs of the company that were cross-promoting and got terminated. As to what GV would do now is anyones last best guess! We're just glad we're out of there and moving on!

              Semper Fi

            • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

              Well, I am glad you are part of this community and through out all the craziness we have become friends.

    • Armando Molina

      Hello, we need to stay focus on our goals and dreams, please contact me at 602.723.6682, yes I am promoting this http://triniticomm.com/mybiz85257 real commissions and products that we need to consider.

      • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

        You are offering Sprint Unlimited service for $79.99??? Good luck offering overpriced services!

      • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

        So you want people to pay $395.00 to be a part of a company that sells broadband internet service on a phone line and voip? (What is the point?).
        I wish you well, I am sorry I have been a little hard on you and what you are offering. Good luck to you and your company, I really hope you do well.

    • http://triniticomm.com/mybiz85257 Armando Molina

      With all my respect to everyone but this is what GV wishes to have for a long time!

      http://triniticomm.com/mybiz85257 there is always another options, God Bless.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        Well I have to hand it to you, this is a nice small piece of spam, wrapped under a legitimate comment. :)

      • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

        Your company doesn't offer much now except for a lot of "comming soon". No wireless phones (comming soon), no MOIP (comming soon), no securith (comming soon), No high definition IPTV (What the heck is that? (I don't really want to know) comming soon), broad band internet you might have it through AT&T (Verizon), OH MY Gosh!!! You have VOIP Phone!!! Oh yeah! Tons of pop ups when I went to your site (icky). You are not what GV wanted to be, You look similar to them (All the stuff is comming.
        Sorry, I have to give you some grief. You should be launching soon and I know you will be EXCITED!!! Hopefully you will be able to sell overpriced wireless service soon!

      • harry boolzonya

        you are an idiot! Go pedal your scam to someone else!

    • Donna Buckner

      Global Group plans? Does anyone know what Global Group is planning?

      • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

        Same old Same Old

        • Cindy Rodrigues

          You would like everyone to think that, Chris. Let's just wait and see!!

          • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

            Global Verge, Global Group. Their answer for everything, "I'm so excited, just wait and see, it's comming".
            GG Will be better than GV, but why would someone work with those people? When leaders are not honnest, can you ever really trust them again? Why would you.

          • http://www.unlimitedwizard.com Chris GREco

            Listen Cindy. They called me recently so they must not have anything so yeah same old sameold. No service no nothing

          • Kevin Berry

            Bravo CIndy!

            • Cindy Rodrigues

              Thanx, Kevin. Sam – In answer to your concern, here's my answer. It was because of the Leaders that I stayed here. They weren't leading anyone down the wrong path, they actually had high hopes that GV would get it together for the sake of all of us. If you look at the credentials of GG, you'd understand that instead of being so judgemental. I respect your concerns, but please don't mix the two. They are two totally different planets.
              !!

            • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

              Look, I understand the psychology behind putting in a lot time and energy into a business and not wanting to let it go. I am judgmental because so much information and broken promises were out there, and that reps stayed the course and still promoted the business and recruited more people. Many leaders stayed the course, instead of searching for a better place to take their group, just to keep the money coming in, until the events of last month.
              I think they had high hopes even with all the information and lies that were going around, and they wanted to secure their group even though they knew it was wasting your money. Hey, I could be wrong, and for your sake i hope I am, but…I don't think I am.

      • http://www.panthermobile.com/pimktg Partners

        Donna,

        WHY with ALL the other REAL TRUE offerings ALREADY OUT HERE in the market would you even BE INTERESTED in WHAT Global Group has to offer or IS PLANNING TO as usual??? Haven't you SEEN ENOUGH of what they CAN'T DO and now you're left wondering as to WHAT THEY THINK they can do?

        If you're really in such a quandry as to WHAT they're planning …HANG ON TIGHT for the NEXT 2 1'2 YEARS and you'll likely find out! Sadly, WE happen to believe (just our own opinion) that YOU CAN and WILL FIND something MORE suitable for yourself and BE a LOT HAPPIER doing it SOONER than later!

    • chris greco

      So the GV call went we are excited, They admit wireless celphone service is even farther away, They admit or elude to the fact there is NO MVNO, They say they have to get their foot in the door to even be considered so now they have to be a reseller, OK we know this but let me say AMP'D. BOOST, Omni, AirVoice, and many others were never resellers of some other MVNO, that is a lie, Further they say they are about to open the warehouse in KC and Florida, WAIT WAIT WAIT, what happened to the Warehouses with all the i-phones, Wow, Then best of all, GV says they have updated their phone system (cough cough) paid their bill, And when Mark goes to speak, A speaker on the line I dont know who, But I hear, BEEP BEEP BEEP, WERE SORRY BUT THE NUMBER YOU REACHED IS NO LONGER IN SERVICE, WOW those phones sound great, No bud Nemith on the Call, Jan, Jim Helman, Wow the are bringing out the big guns!!!, To bad its to late for them, They kept talking about foundation, Well it doesnt take 1 year to sell a wireless service, Panther is a Prime example, So lets all keep this 100% real, Global Verge is so scared that they are begging to keep the leaders they have left, Ruth has disappeared, not on the calls webinars, So it is what it is, NO WIRELESS SERVICE MEANS NO BUSINESS, see global verge keeps Harping on their OTHER PRODUCTS, POWER SAVERS, AND WATER MACHINES, DOOOO NOOOT, pay a residual income, And Mark and Ted how do you think you got so many to sign up? cellular service thats why. So now that you say that it will be even longer. wow so another promise not kept, and it will continue, thats all I can say is look at the Track record they dont produce.

      Chris Greco

    • http://www.panthermobile.com Carri fraizer

      I hear things are not going well between Kevin Harry and Chris. I hear that panther is having money issues, etc. Wonder where chris has been, Is he leaving Panther for Global Group, Thats what I am hearing.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        Carri,

        I think I can answer that question. I was on the phone with the guys Friday for about two hours and things were great. I was back on the phone with Kevin today right after he he had walked out of their new office where he had signed the lease. He was pretty stoked on where they were heading.

        Chris called today to fill me in on some new phone services and to see if I can guide him on how to get phones and sim cards to our troops in Haiti, so Panther could support the cause down there.

        So not sure where you heard things were not going well, but from what they guys told me, it could not be better. I will be doing a full report in the new few days.

        • http://www.panthermobile.com/pimktg Partners

          Hey Everyone!

          No worries! Things couldn't be better with Panther Mobile and YES …they signed a lease for their new office space and call center as we understand it. We too were on the phones today and everyones happy! There just couldn't have been a better or sooner solution for those that needed something really fast and someone that COULD provide everything Global Verge never would! That's not to say there aren't other options available but the people we know sure do have HUGE smiles on their faces …SMILES you can hear right through the phone!

          Thanks to Harry and Kevin – those two guys have been working their hearts out. I mean hey …call in the morning and the CEO answers the phone – same with Kevin the CEOO. These two guys just keep on going like an "Energizer Bunny" – ALL the really neat things coming on board are going to blow any comptetition Global Group THINKS they can provide clear out of the water!

          • http://www.panthermobile.com Carri fraizer

            the response above has proven what I was saying I see no mention of chris grecco at all, So whats really happening, Someone at Global Group has told me Chris Grecco is taking his services over there, Thats what they are saying, So is frank varone, Lying? Or is it not all warm and sunny at panther mobile?

            • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

              Carri,

              I was very clear to the fact I was on the phone with Chris, Kevin and Harry. As for Frank Lying… Well he was one of the loudest voices to the fact Global Verge was bringing our 5G and had control of the 2100 band for the phones from the very beginning. As a matter of fact if you go all the way back to the first articles we wrote you will see many on the call very upset because of Frank's recorded calls which were completely false.

              Maybe Frank is lying, or maybe this is just you trying to make waves, or maybe Frank is using some form of marketing to try and gain some of his folks back from Panther. No matter what it is, I personally talked to all the players at Panther on a regular basis, and Chris communicates daily because I am testing the phones.

            • Partners

              Hello Carri!

              You're right! We did forget to mention that Chris is working his behind off too! He IS and in fact his phones HAVE been quite busy! Chris is doing EVERYTHING he can to make sure that new members arriving @ Panther Mobile HAVE EVERYTHING they need and MORE!

              What Chris has done for Panther Mobile AND New Members has provided a SAFE HAVEN where members ARE having their phones activated in a very SHORT amount of time AND members are coming to calls in mass and ordering their phones which ARE BEING DELIVERED in 3 to 5 business days!

              THIS IS exactly what Global Verge WOULD NOT and COULD NOT DO! People are happiest WHEN THEY GET what they're promised! HUGE KUDO's to Harry, Kevin AND CHRIS!

              Regarding RUMORS: Rumors are talk or opinion widely shared with NO discernable TRUTH and intended ONLY to make oneself APPEAR better or knowledgable WHEN THEY ARE NOT! PEOPLE WHO SPREAD RUMORS are in general INSECURE or NEED ATTENTION and HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY people they harm in the process of BENEFITING THEMSELVES ONLY!

      • http://panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

        Well my friend Carri I'm ex globalverge I sign up with panther 2 weeks ago I been activated 12 phones with 200 free minutes, so far people loveit ,we will lunch next week $10 unlimited internet data on blackberry phones with tethering to your laptop faster than verizon in some areas all boostmobile wil be available to use it,I'm working with hispanic people market helping them to translate to spanish conecting Chris with big cellguys in mexico coming soon ,

      • http://panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

        we already in Canada,I'm testing a technology for all South and centralamericans that they will be available to call they love ones for free any time and page them, and have access for fax ,and wire money from their cell phones they did in one month what other companies haven't in 10 years on the field do you math what we will be doing in the next years to come, if you want to listen testimonies about this peoples that they spent 8 month in global verge paying $39 for nothing and now they have service now not months to come with same old tale we have something that not body has? booo,listen the record from Jim hell-men and his disiples:frank Bar,Ruth May?,Jane tarzan, etc that so call leaders
        http://thefutureinmobile.com/buzzirk/intro/ if you want proof send me an Email globalvision@vipze.com thaks Troy to help me find my path to this company with Chris and Kevin
        Living An Epic Adventure,[youtube pt-DXM1IFIk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-DXM1IFIk youtube]

      • http://www.panthermobile.com/pimktg Partners

        Carri,

        AS WITH ANY competition … there WILL ALWAYS BE SOME PEOPLE that spread rumors, half truths, uniformed statements and plain out lies to promote their OWN Telcom opportunities (or any other business they do) to MAKE OTHERS BELIEVE that things aren't going well for THEIR COMPETITORS.

        ** Panther Mobile is ABSOLUTLEY 100% DEBT FREE and there are NO MONEY ISSUES …period!

        Harry Aston, Kevin Sipes and Chris Greco GET ALONG WONDERFULLY! Just because Chris may or may not live up to EVERYONE ELSE's opinion of HOW he should use the English Language DOES NOT MEAN the 3 of them don't get along! CHRIS IS NOT LEAVING Panther Mobile!

        PLEASE CHECK your resources BEFORE you believe and repeat WHAT OTHERS tell you INCLUDING comments on other blogs and forums. IF you DON'T WANT to become PART of the industry GOSSIP DENS – we highly recommend to you (as we do with anyone in this industry) to STEER CLEAR of the Pig Pens. ROLL in the MUD with the PIGS and YOU WILL ALWAYS END UP with it ON YOU TOO. NO MATTER WHAT ( in this industry BOTH good and bad ), WHAT GOES AROUND …ALWAYS COMES BACK AROUND!

    • http://mlmselectionsecrets.com Paul Douglas

      spam is spam even under mustard.
      My recent post So You Think Network Marketing Is Tough?

    • Partners

      G. As a condition of participating in the GLOBALVERGE opportunity and inconsideration of receipt of commissions and other bonuses from GLOBALVERGE, a former eAssociate may not recruit any GLOBALVERGE e-associate or customer for another direct selling, multilevel, network marketing, or relationship marketing company for a period of six months following the termination, expiration, or cancellation of the eAssociate agreement.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        Well, I guess the question might arise on if GV broke the agreement first by not paying all commissions or bonuses.

        I still do not think GV would do anything because it would mean they know the respondents will push for their books to be opened and made a part of the court records.

    • http://mlmselectionsecrets.com Paul Douglas

      spam is spam even under mustard.
      My recent post So You Think Network Marketing Is Tough?

    • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

      I'm not sure who told me this, but I hear that the person who coordinated the exotic dancers for Gv was a person named Carie F. I'm not sure, but I hear she is with a new network marketing company and WOW is it a global group. She is arranging her dancers to get new reps. Ok, I am just kidding, point is, Carie, stop being slimy.

      • http://www.panthermobile.com/pimktg Partners

        Hey Sam!

        GENERALLY: When people make uniformed comments based on what they've heard from someone else or SOMETHING they've read on other blogs and forums, it's a SIGN OF being inexperienced OR SADLY …BEING A PART OF the instant messenging and online RUMOR MILLS that seem to SELF INSTALL, inluding other blogs and forums.

        SADLY WITHOUT much else to do …people WILL burn up the phone lines in the name of BUSINESS WITHOUT ANY. SELF IMPORTANCE to SOME IS SIMPLY TALKING! Our experience has taught us that SOME WILL talk about most ANYTHING rather than to FOCUS on learning about and building their OWN business! A LOT of those are IN GENERAL the FIRST ones to want to tell you what business to join and HOW TO DO IT!

        Unfortunately, there ARE people that DO believe most anything and everything they read or hear!

        Notice we said GENERALLY. We feel SO strongly that IT IS UP TO THOSE OF US that in fact ARE EXPERIENCED to TEACH and GUIDE not only new people to the industry but also those not so new that may not have learned ETHICS 101 BEFORE arriving and deciding to do a Home Based Business!

    • Harry bollzonya

      i spoke to steve in September. He told me that he did have a phone and it worked great! So what can i say. He lied to me and thats enough for me to believe he is lying about how much he actually knew was going on with GV. This Son Biotch told me he had the phone and it worked great!

      And to the person that stated she cant believe whats going on with GV and that she is so disappointed. I ask you this. Why did it take so long to figure this scheme was going bad? Who lead you along your upline? who is him/her? Lets drag all the bad guys out into the open so that this never happens agian.

    • Craig

      As a former GV associate I saw the proverbial writing on the wall last summer when deadlines weren't being met and corporate was insisting that everyone take down their websites and blogs. Personally I haven't seen a decent network marketing company come out in quite some time. It's just the same individuals mostly rip-off artists and con-men re-branding themselves every twelve to eighteen months.

      • David Adams

        Craig,
        Take a look at the 5 part review here on VEMMA. The future of this company is SOLID

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

      Cindy,

      You make a valid point. Several times I would talk to leaders in GG and although, they agreed there were issues, they did not act blind to them. And as I have written several times if the leaders in the field could have bought GV, they would have turned it around.

      Now don't get me wrong, I am still just as frustrated with them, as I was months ago for staying this long. But, if they can launch a company which operates with legally and with the welfare of the distributors as one of their main priorities, along with making a profit, then before long people will forgive them for staying as long as they did.

    • Craig

      More foolishness via email though I ended my involvement with GV months ago:

      "If you are recieving this email, you are in our group in Global Verge.

      Many people have contacted us quite upset about what is going on, and have asked our opinion , so here is our response:

      Many people in Global Verge are recieving unsolicited and unrequested e mails from a group who calls themselves the Global Group.

      Do NOT be mis-lead – these emails are NOT offering their support. These e mails are simply a blatent attempt to cross recruit you to another company. Please Do NOT respond to them, they do NOT have your best interest at heart.

      First – while we value highly EVERY member of our group, we realize no one "belongs to anyone" and everyone is free make any decision they want too. However, in order to make the right decision, you need to know the facts to base your decisions on. So please allow us to clear up some mis-information that is being passed around as fact.

      The Global Group was NEVER at the top of Global Verge (The Global Group was on our 15th level). They do NOT have, (and have never had) the fastest growing group in Global Verge – WE DO! (We have over 42,000 people who have joined our team since we started a year ago this month!!)

      I was taught at an early age that "If you can't say something good about someone, the simply say nothing at all!" The Global Group violates this cardinal rule with every communication. Does that show true leadership? I think not."

    • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

      I just can't believe the last two letters that GV just sent out.
      Here is the last one.cross recruiting answer continued
      Secondly, with the glitches & bumps we have experienced with the Global Verge opportunity, we assure you that no one has been more frustrated than we. However, we are working directly with Ted Robbins and Raymond at GM1 to resolve all issues for our team. We understand that GV has had poor Customer Service. We are working to help them resolve that issue. And this has been frustrating for all of us but if you will let us know, we will do our best to assist you quickly.

      • _Arthur

        Poor customer service ? Paint me surprised pink

    • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

      Part 2:
      Here is all that we ask:
      Be Fair to yourself, Be Loyal to yourself – not to a self proclaimed leader that we feel is making a very bad decision.
      This is your business, your future, YOU and you alone make the decision.
      1. DO NOT BLINDLY follow anyone. You have a mind, use it.
      2. Assess the opportunity yourself.
      3. Be Skeptical – Ask yourself – WHY is this group cross recruiting????
      4. Could it be that they are trying to protect "Their income – not yours?"
      5. Do your own "Due Diligence" – don't blindly accept what the person or group trying to recruit you is saying.
      6. Check out the company, check out the owners of the company and their track records (or lack thereof). If nothing is available – that's a RED FLAG.
      7. Question MOTIVE: When someone bad mouths, or tries to hurt another's business in order to promote their own – I was always taught to avoid them. READ their correspondence with this in mind.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/ConcernedMLMer ConcernedMLMer

        This is the letter that GV corporate sent to their reps??? Are you kidding me?

        What I find hysterical here is that not one of the reps that joined Global Verge over the last year did any of this! LOL!!!!

        • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

          They actualy sent three letters in a row. I became tired of reading that crap and just deleted them.

      • http://www.panthermobile.com/pikmktg Partners

        Hey Sam!

        OUTSTANDING and EXCELLENT ADVICE to ALL and EVERYONE considering marketing and networking ANY business be it LOCAL or ONLINE! THANK YOU SAM …for YOUR wisdom and for HELPING others to see the TRUTH's in BOTH networking and marketing!

        We see Networking and Marketing as TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES – although MOST would connect the 2 together – there are DEFINITE DIFFERENCES between the two!

        YOUR VOICE of REASON should serve the masses and WE KNOW HOW RIGHT YOU ARE!

    • WOW Mobile Army!

      Troy,

      I can't believe you let this Chris Greco get away with his flagrant SALES pitch on your blogg. (hey I am all about him showing GV for what it is, don't get me wrong as I know all to well the inside scoop on those crooks) but this is very disturbing. Information place on your site is not meant to SELL but educate the naive public. He has page after page of sales material and what I can't figure out is why you allow this. I guess I should be posting Once a day and pitch my Op and before you know it every Tom Dick and Harry will be doing the same and that my friend is when Troly Dooley's creditability as a Super Human Crusader for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Shaking down the Scams in this industry, is shot!

      Troy implement some policy changes before it is too late. Stick to your Gunns and make the Gods of Mt. MLM – mpia proud of what you have created!

      Your Brother in Arms!

      • Chris greco

        Wow guy, look if you call me saying that wow is the only other company I feel is legit in mlm wireless, how is that pitching my own product. Look when people post asking questions I answer the

        unlike anyother Owner or executive in mlm. I do not mute my daily calls to the field etc. So when a distributor asks about the business I give them info to make an informed decision. So is Troy wrong for letting me let the distributor know there is a place with a physical office, and that our company sells all four carriers? I think it gives people a choice, and in my opinion you are scared for your company as you should be, when we can offer the talk text and data unlimited with tethering and international calling for 54.99. I thinks that's called shock and awe, see wow is a good product for what it is, but your company is charging 89.99 for the product we offer on t-mobile and sprint for 54.99 we also have boost, pageplus, AT&T, verizon, omni, platinumtel, xtreme mobile, so it is what it is, I'm not plastering this site with adds or pushing a product I am answering the questions of the distributors that are tired of being burned.

        Chris Greco

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        WOW Mobile Army,

        You bring up a valid point. I will take that under deep consideration, and review all of Chris's post, especially those which are outside of Global Verge.

        • Nancy

          I must agree,,, you are very clear in the rules,,, i thought i read,,, not to promote your business ,,
          I am shocked that this is allowed ,in fact it has been for awhile,
          if it is allowed then by all means let us all do it,,
          I hope it isnt,,i want facts i dont want pitches

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

            Nancy,

            We do allow a person to share about their business by providing a place for links in their profile. This did get out of hand, and we fixed the issue.

    • WOW Mobile Army!

      Troy,

      FYI – 90% of what Steve and Teresa say about GV is true. What you need to know though as much as it is true both of these two pose as a couple of sheep but are really a couple of wolves who have some VERY unsavory history of their own. Let's just say I won't call them as key defense witness's at my own murder trail as the prosecution would have a hay day picking apart "their" credibility.

      Bottom line is the financial hemorrhaging that GV is causing their Kool-Aide drinkers needs to come to an end. K. T. What are you waiting for. Let's nail these bastards!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        WOW Mobile Army,

        Thanks for your comments. I think we covered that pretty good in several of the Global Verge articles.

      • http://www.panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

        Does any one know what hapened with wow imposible I heared that T mobile pull the plug because trade marks violation and also BOOST LUNCHING NEXT WEEK $50 UNLIMITED EVERITHING AND CHRIS FROM PANTHERMOBILE SIGN AGREEMENTS TO SUPPLY UNLIMITED DATA FOR $10 WITH YOU BLAC BERRY YOU WILL BE AVIALABLE TO TETHERING TO YOUR LOPTOP FASTER THAN VERIZON AND SOME AREAS,AND LUNCHING THE LETHAL WEAPON NEXT WEEK ALSO MLM EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO ACTIVATE,RECHARGED AND SELL CELLPHONES CHEAPER THAN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES %90 OF CELLPHONES IN THE WORLD WOWWWWWW AND ONE MORE

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

        Saul,

        The reason your heard about trademark violations is because you were probably on a Panther leadership call where one of the founders, without contacting me first made a very irresponsible public statement.

        If you truly want the truth, then read my post.

        http://www.mlmhelpdesk.com/2010/02/25/wow-mobile-

      • David

        Saul, Please stop drinking Chris's Kool Aid

        Just for your information.. Boost has had unlimited everything for $50 for the last two years. That is not the workings of chris.
        Also, For $10 more you can gt the blackberry service from boost, Once again not the working of chris..

        I have been a boost customer since the day they started the $50 everything service in 2008.. SO I do not who's kool aid your drinking, but Chris has nothing to do with what Boost mobile has done.
        In fact the Blackberry service through boost has been up and running for nearly a month. Sorry, But Once again, Your Hero Chris has nothing to do with it.
        Please do your homework, before you try recruiting for this scam also, Boost has nothing starting next week. Unless we are talking about year 2008

        http://www.boostmobile.com < see for yourself, I love their service, which is why im out of the MLM scams for wireless..

        • http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2004/06/07/daily15.html LetsGetEvenToday

          David you said it right! All this Hype for MLM cell phone service and 30 to 40 % higher prices is a "RIP OFF"! I don't trust MLM at all any more. I'm with you 100%! Great Job David! The cell phone business for MLM will soon come to a halt! Because non of them are MVNO's! All the MVNO's can pull the plugs right out from there feet and leave them with NOTHING! All they go to do is SCREW UP! Then where will they all go?
          My recent post Alberici completes $230M Ameren project

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

            Hey all wireless has been a part of MLM since it was first introduced to the world. I am not sure it will ever go away, I just think it may go back to being a smaller part of the over all offering.

            I think the main issue is most of the companies who are focusing on wireless are using it as a ploy to cover up the fact they are paying out high commissions inside of a matrix compensation plan. When the wireless service is all from internal consumption, and the companies are not enforcing their own customer qualification rules, then we have an issue.

            Just some thoughts.

      • David

        Also,

        The reason why Boost can tether to a laptop IN SOME AREAS and be faster than Verizon, IS because Sprint Bought into a company called CLEAR Used to be called Clearwire. CLEAR is the ONLY 4G internet carrier in the United States. The phones will have the chip built in to access the signal CLEAR offers..IT is not because of what Chris says he offered. The is a straight out LIE. NO wireless company as of yet offers anything over a 3G network, Only CLEAR has the ability to offer 4G speeds. (which was not being considered for Cell phone use, Until Sprint bought into it and figured out it may be a good idea)
        Please do your homework on this subject, before you hurt the people following you because they have no clue of the Facts. Afterall, It is public knowledge!

        This is the exact reason why when i left GV i did not follow the leaders. People in this industry tend to believe everything someone tells them without doing the research to back it up.

        If there is a slim chance that i may be wrong about what i said about Chris ( unlikely), I will apologize in due time, However you can pretty much google and find out everything i just wrote to be true.

        Im seriously starting to think that Chris or Panther mobile might be another GV and starting to make promises they cant keep, Not only that, But i just looked at panther mobile site, Why are they selling Simple Moble and Page plus?? if Chris Has what he says he has???
        I clicked plans and when i seen that I about fell out of my chair..
        Were they not the ones who was talking about GV using simple mobile and Page Plus ??
        Seems like another scam to me, especially when i can go straight to simple mobile AND page plus and get the same plan for less!! And become a dealer for them and make my own commission with out OVERCHARGING people for it!

        Im yelling SCAM right now.. im still going to sit back and watch

  • gomobile

    This is the company Troy you have allowed to have an open advertising forum here. I mean what has Chris been doing but getting prospects from here. I lost at least 6 since the Chris PR machine was let loose here on your site. Please do not take it the wrong way as we are very glad you are here doing all the hard work. It just seems very strange that Chris was given and took such liberties on this site. Then the next thing you know his company is spreading information that they know are lies about other companies. Sorry if Iam just a little frustrated today.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

      GoMobile,

      This is your community as well as mine. The only difference is I write more than most.

      This is twice in 24 hours where huge complaints have come up and I am working to correct it.

      I have been on the phone with WOW and T-Mobile is going to provide me a letter of official apology to WOW Mobile for the situation they went through.

      I wish to say I am sorry I have caused you or anyone to lose anyone. I have the team going through the site and we will be reviewing ALL comments over the next three days eliminating all comments which in our opinion are seen as recruiting pieces.

      Agian, I am truly sorry for this lack in tightness.

      This is 100% my responsibility.

      Living An Epic Adventure,

      Troy

      • http://www.panthermobile.com/pimktg Partners

        A HUGE "THANK YOU" Troy!

        Blogs and Forums have SPECIAL PLACES SET UP for LINKS regarding OTHER business's and Promo's! We've also NOTICED SOME POSTING in ALL CAPS talking about ,,,"WHAT I / OUR / WE / THEY HAVE" …as opposed to others. That's JUST LIKE a LINK in our opinion BUT …what the heck do we know, lol!

        EVEN WE got told several years back: DO NOT POST or CHAT in ALL CAPS – it's JUST LIKE YELLING at someone!

        THANKS TROY for your diligence, TIME and effort in policing this site, KEEPING it a SAFE PLACE TO POST and CREATING a COMMUNITY OF Like Minded People ALLOWING for Alternative Opinions!

        YOU ARE an EPIC ADVENTURE – SEMPER FI!

  • David

    Ok,

    I have following this for awhile, and i just want to clear something up that i see floating around.

    I see a few people on here saying Chris is supplying Boost mobile with there data for the black berry service boost offers. I would just like to say that is not true.
    Boost started their Black berry service the fist of Febuary, At which time Chris had nothing to do with them. Also boost has for the Last TWO years been offering the $50 unlimited everything plan, IT does not start up next week.. It started in 2008..
    Chris might be adding boost service, to his service, But what boost has done has NOTHING to do with Chris.
    I have been a boost customer since Day One when they started their $50 plan. They run off the Sprint/Nextel network.
    So im sorry to inform you Kool Aid Drinkers that you are falling for another scam…
    The proof is here, if it starts next week, why is boost already selling it??
    http://www.boostmobile.com And NO they are not a MLM

    • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

      I'm not sure where you get that Chris said he is doing anything but adding the Boost service to sell by panther. But if one person got that opinion, then others might have it as well. Let me clear it up. No, he is not providing the data service, he is providing the boost service to the reps to offer. But as a fan of Boost mobile my self, I will be able to offer it myself and have people get it from me. I will make money off of it. The service should start up for Panther to sell within a couple of weeks, depending on the integration into our back office. Could be as soon as Monday, just depends. The claims about tethering and faster speeds is because in some areas the IDEN (the walkie talkie) speeds are faster than 3G. I personally do not know this, just, that is what has been stated. I'll do research before promoting this. David, I do not know what site you looked at, but page plus has unlimited talk and text on their site for $39.95. Thats what we offer. Please check your facts. http://www.pagepluscellular.com We offer some awesome rates. Awesome plans. Awesome company.

      • David

        The reason why Boost can tether to a laptop IN SOME AREAS and be faster than Verizon, IS because Sprint Bought into a company called CLEAR Used to be called Clearwire. CLEAR is the ONLY 4G internet carrier in the United States. The phones will have the chip built in to access the signal CLEAR offers..IT is not because of what Chris says he offered. The is a straight out LIE. NO wireless company as of yet offers anything over a 3G network, Only CLEAR has the ability to offer 4G speeds. (which was not being considered for Cell phone use, Until Sprint bought into it and figured out it may be a good idea)

        • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

          So what you are saying is that Chris could be bringing in Boost And Balckberry phones that are equipped with these chips. Chris never stated that he was providing a new service, just the contracts with the companies so we could offer the new (to us) service. So what is your gripe? I thought the Data was over IDEN, but if it is from the clear chip, then so what? We will be offering it and making a residual income off of it. No Kool-aid, just the facts. No lies, but someone may have the tech aspects mixed up. You admit that it can happen, so what is your beef? Your quote…"..IT is not because of what Chris says he offered." Actually, it is. Chris is offering the contracts where we can sell Boost. so ipso facto, he brought it! I believe you owe him an apology. Oh, by the way, want to apologize about where you were wrong about our prices being too high? You called Panther a SCAM. Fess up, you can't get cheaper service on any of our companies, can you?

          • David

            Actually Sam,

            I do not owe any apology to Chris, because i was going by what not one, But two of the Panther mobile reps said.
            What i was replying to was where someone said Chris was Supplying The data for the boost network, At which point i was right.
            The above replies was for your information, So you would know in the future where the speeds were coming from, BUT for now on, ill keep the information to myself, and let you all think what ever it is you want to AND look like fools when the truth comes out!

            Also, Pageplus does not offer a plan for $69.99,Theirs is $39.95 SO with that being said Yes they are more expensive because you are also buying into Panther Mobile.
            Also, MY Biggest Beef is where Chris Says he has this Great service, My question is WHERE IS IT??
            He was on here Blasting Global Verge for selling Page Plus And Simple Moble, YET Panther Is selling the same Exact service. Where is Chris's Service at??
            Seems Weird to me that it is NON Existant, If it was As great as he was saying, WHY are they using page plus??? and Simple Mobile???

            And to answer your Last Question… YES I can get cheaper service WITH BOTH services, Its called becoming a dealer for them.. Anyone can be a dealer for BOTH services. The only thing you wont get is the income from your friends and family that pay into a matrix every month!
            So with all that being said, The matrix Once again really dont have a product involved.. HMM

          • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

            First: We don't offer page plus service for $69.99. That is for a person who wants the business ($34.95) and the service together, learn to read better. That is not for just service.
            Second: GV was selling the service at a way inflated rate, as I just showed you we are not.
            Third: Yes you can rep directly for PP and simple mobile. Go and work that out. Unless you are a dealer then you can not get lower prices. And last, my friends and family who just buy service are not in the matrix. I do not have to apply to be a Boost Dealer, or an AT&T dealer, or a Simple Mobile dealer, or a Platinum Tel dealer, or carry inventory. So without being a dealer,(which I don't believe you are) you can not get lower prices, Period. This is legit. You can't change that fact.

          • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

            1. CDMA_$39.95-Cellular Service only-Talk & Text

            CDMA CELLULAR SERVICE ONLY: UNLIMITED TALK AND TEXT CDMA Service includes phones like: Verizon, Alltel, unlocked Sprint Phones, etc. Monthly: $39.95 plus $20 Activation and $5 Handling Fee (1st month only)Companies using CDMA Technology- Verizon, Sprint & Altel. We cannot use prepaid phones or smartphones on the PagePlus network at this time. Mid Range phones are okay to use.

          • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

            Part 2
            Again Chris is supplying the contracts sooo… he is providing the service and the data (contracts). Maybe a couple of reps were confused, or they just did not write it correctly, but Chris never said he was providing the data other then what is available.
            Your just mad that your old company scammed you. Don't feel too bad, they scammed others as well. I want to offer you a peace offering, how about Boost with all the fixings that is normally $60 for $55.00 per month? we offer the lowest price that is offered to the public.

          • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

            Last, Panther does not have a rep recruiting promotion to get paid on all levels. You have to sell the service to be eligible for top payout. Some companies stress recruiting reps and customers, you can max out the comp plan by maintaining just customers. Awesome company!

          • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

            Um David just so you know we are going to offer ALL prepaid products, not just those, But we wont ever tell you or say it is something else, Further we are the only company that can offer service on a blackberry on boost for 54.99, plain and simple David, And um we have produced EVERY LITTLE THING WE SAID, Keep drinking that koolaide at global verge, Wanna hear something funny, They have thier own service at GV huh, Well today we got an email from Mark Petchel, LOL looking to use our service, This is frigging laughable, He saw Vodatext, He didnt know it was panther and said he could put all these phones on panther I am sending a copy with the Ip address and all to Troy to post if he wants to prove they have lied again at GV.

          • David

            Actually

            I do 1/2 own a Brick and Mortar store, At which i do sell Page Plus, Boost, Cricket, And Simple mobile..
            Comtect Wireless
            2922 High point Rd
            Greensboro, Nc 27403
            You can find us on boost, simple, page, and cricket…

            That is why i am let down by Chris's offer that he has something Unique.. That is what US Dealers are Looking for, That Unique Product that Panther Does not offer!

            Also, what most people in the MLM is missing, is that Being a direct dealer for these companies, You get what is called Advertising revenue, and other Corporate bonuses. So while you are telling your reps that they make $5 a sale, and monthly revenue each month, You the head OPS of panther are collecting Alot more they dont even know about.
            Afterall, They are the ones doing all the work, Throw them a bone once in awhile. Boost does allow for bonuses to be given for set sales goals, where is that in your bonus plan?
            Im sorry Panther Mobile, But until you get something Unique, I must say you wont get many true dealers to join you.
            Also, Yes I was with GV, Not no more.. The only reason I was with GV is because they claimed to have That Unique Service.
            Like i said Ill sit back and watch, panther Mobile, Gi Connect, and Wow Mobile..

          • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

            David if you are a boost dealer then you know how it goes I am A BSR agent, we have the direct line to Boost, not VIP or Perfect connections etc, Straight to Boost, and we do have something unique its called Blackberry on Boost for 54.99 you know that is 60.00 so we are saving people 5.00 and we have att now 79.99 unlimited not t-mobile but AT&T, hmmm. thats something no one else has, Further we have international long distance where you can use you mobile device anywhere in the world for rates starting at 1.9 cents a minute! So if you have that where you can dial straight out I would love to see it, Glad your a dealer so then you can confirm that we are cheaper than everyone else in boost! at 54.99 for blackberrys on Boost mobile, with BIS email the whole nine and yes we offer tethering BOOST DOES NOT OFFER THIS, THIS IS AN EXCLUSIVE PROGRAM THROUGH PANTHER!. Thanks for the insight

          • David

            Chris ,

            You can tether any phone on the 3g network, As long as you have enough bandwidth..
            With the boost blackberry that is a option through boost..thats not unique to you..

            But Anyway enough of that!

            What I want to see Chris is the Service you said You had the was Unique..

            Im not talking att, tmobile..boost… You stated in your earlier posts that you have your OWN service.. Thats what us dealers are REALLY looking for. Not some run off from another company.
            Thats What you boasted about so much on here, My question really stands.. Where is that service??

            Or did I misunderstand??
            Are you just another person in the chain of many people who are able to contact companies and make deals with them because of the number of members you have selling the services And you really do not have nothing Unique like your OWN service??

    • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

      Anyone feel free to call me and I will be happy to answer any questions about the company Without any bs. without trying to recruit you. 850 291-0124 I spend most of my day on the phone any way, just don't try to recruit me to your oppertunity, and I will do you the same favor. Between my Brick and Morter business, building my Panther business and studdying on my MBA classes I just don't have time for another business. But I always have time to network with peers and help others out, just ask.

    • http://panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

      Hello TROY I HOPE YOU ARE FAIR AND LET ME APOLOGIZE AND PUT ALL THIS LETTER COMPLEATE LET ME DEFEND MY SELF :D avid if that is your real name, here I’m apologize for what I said , unless I’m putting my real name HERE and where you can contact me and yes we will see the letter from TMOBILE ok for the good of all the costumers out there, special my family and California that they call me after they bought a g mobile because they where in global V trash waiting for their phones ,they didn’t believe me about panther and they spent double what boost is offering, they have problems after they buy a phone for $399 and of course like David said is not over price , plus $69.95 unlimited T-V and activation $24.95And since was you not me who brought this up and you said that I didn’t know anything about wireless and you can go to any carrier put your own dealer to sale everything what Chris have, let me tell you a little about me

    • http://panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

      PART 2-I live in WA. For 12 years I us to have my first dealer of cell phones, me and my boss were the first that we introduce the unlimited everything here in wa.ohio,Oregon and part of California superprepaid northwest he was a master agent and now he chering his own mvno primocell he was my master we lunch $59 unlimited everything with power link and after 2 months boost lunched $50 unlimited everything and since that we lost a lot costumers with boost powerlink lost his contract unlimited everything and went up to $69 I lost $8,000 my boss lost a lot, what I learn , never put all your eggs in one basket on cell phones, I like technology I learn the hard way, and after zer01 men I’m exceptical , I did my researched ,I been having calls from wow,FDI, traverus and light year, since November they been try to recruiting me, and my team .

    • http://panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

      PART3-,I asked them some ?? they didn’t have a clue what WAS THE DIFERENCE BETWEEN GMS, CDMA, IEN AND YOU ARE RIGHT PEOPLE DON’T KNOW AND THEY DIDN’T DO THEIR DILIGENCE, THAT’S why we need to be truthful and have knowledge about what we are talking about, you said I can go and sell page plus,boost etc and that panther is selling over prices. People check this out http://www.pagepluscellular.com Ididn’t found where they give you 200 free minutes to try their service first before signup, http://www.boostmobile.com Ididn’t see where they offered a black berry since 2008 , second they charged $60 for unlimited everything and data .Panther or unlimited wizard $54.95 and you can tethering to your computer not cups truthly unlimited plus we make residual for all this services ?where is the over prices,

    • http://panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

      PART4-if you want more samples send me an email. What all people learn from this conversations. NEVER PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET ON TECHNOLOGY BE SMART AND FREE SELL EVERIYHING TO THE COSTUMER AND LET THEM CHOOSE THEIR OWN PLAN WITH DIFERENT CARRIERS,KEVIN,CHRIS AND HARRY THEY ARE THE SMAREST PEOPLE AND THIS INDUSTRIE FROM MY STAND POINT AND LETS CLEAR I’M NOT TED FROM GLOBAL VTRASH, I’M JUST A REGULAR GUY THAT WANT TO BE SUCSESFULL IN THIS TELECOME WAR, WE ARE DOING SOME THING DIFERENT FROM ALL THE COMPANIES OUT THERE JUST PREPAID AND NEXT WEEK INTERNATIONAL CELL PHONES TOO
      Prepaid cell phones do not require contracts or credit checks.

    • http://panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

      PART 6-Just because you forgot to pay a bill three years ago doesn’t mean you have to pay hundreds of dollars in deposits to belong to the 21st century.Most people doesn’t know that since 3 years ago now is different you pay lees on prepaid now than contract,new trends are emerging plus internet voip is free now in some companies and now even from your 3g cell phone and

    • http://panthermobile.com/globalvision SAUL H.

      FINAL-some guy out there call leader of the field jim,gane,ted,frank,mark etc. since they are the experts because most of them came from excel they lunching future technology that not body has call unlimited to 300 countries for free from your cell phone wauuu people without knowledge believe themAnd pay $300 up $2000 to sign up because is ground floor opportunity and then after 6 month of prelunches and autoships boom they bring taraaaa voipcell waoo. lest nail those guys once for all and unite forces this market is big trillions ,lets debate fairly (wow,lightyear,) sorry for the other ones but again from my stand point this companies have some thing real and a good price but like I said sorry wow and lets educated the people on this topic of technology, troy if you can educate us on grid coming very soon that will be awesome Quote of the Day"Never let life's hardships disturb you…no one can avoid problems, not even saints or sages." Atte GLOBAL VISION TEAM. GOD BLESS

  • Partners

    AMEN Sam!

    We're still people and STILL have our own Principles and Character. Those who DO NOT should thank their lucky stars as GOD knows their days here on earth and can make it happen at any time. WE KNOW …one of us has already been there. SOME don't know where their next meal is going to come from and they're grateful for what they get, when they get!

    Thanks for being a SOUND voice in all of this …WE are trying to be also. We are ALL very lucky and fortunate and can count our blessings day by day.

  • THE END

    Global Group have quit…just read the new mail….the tour de Frank is over…GV is doomed…ship sinking fast…get a life preserver…WOW!

    • felecom

      Yes GV is over and the leaders kept the truth from you so would keep paying for the $50 to $100 autoship month after month for nearly a year! Now it's time to change the name and have the current owners move to the background and jump to a new company where you can do this all over again. The leaders position first of course and cut special deals, in return they make the promises that we are going to do everything right this time. SORRY GLOBAL GROUP WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING SHOULD HAVE TOLD US THE TRUTH A LONG TIME AGO GV NEVER HAD THE MONEY TO DO TELECOM PROPERLY … NEITHER DOES YOUR CURRENT DEAL !

      Somebody got information about class action lawsuit against Global Verge and their leaders! The lies must stop now!

  • David

    Oh sorry Please let me add this…

    This is not for all phone models, this is only for the Black Berrys and other Smart Phones. Your regular Cell Phone will not have this feature.

  • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

    David, Check out the plans at Panther Mobile Tuesday am and let me know what you think.

    • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

      Will not be on there Tuesday. I look for it next Monday! Thats what I get for referencing something that is not on the site yet!

  • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

    Troy this just came in on the VODA TEXT site, i.e. Panther mobile I get alerts via MMS on my phone, Guess who its from, LOL mark petchel, It seems they have no service at GV and they are looking at VODA TEXT not knowing that it is now Panther Mobile, LOL, Here is all the info IP ADDRESS AND ALL, IT CAN BE VERIFIED ANYONE CAN LOOK AT (ANY) GV EMAIL AND SEE THE IP MATCHES WOW

    Form: ID 719
    Date: 02-26-2010 17:44:18
    IP Address: 24.123.106.12
    Network Location: Overland Park, Kansas, United States

    A Join Question has just arrived.

    My contact request is for:: Sales Department
    Questions or Concerns: interested in offering this product to our many 1000s of customers. We are activating 1000s with simple mobile but do not like doing business with them. Please call me to discuss. Can these sims be branded, or are they ATT sims? or Tmobile? We need a new solution fast as we have 100s of activations to do and do not want to do them on simple
    Telephone: 816-256-3595
    Name: mark petschel
    Best Time To Call: ASAP
    Time Zone: Central
    Email Address: mark@globalverge.com

  • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

    I want you guys to see they said they need a solution fast LOL

    • Partners

      Hey Chris!

      YOU ARE DOING one fantastic job FOR Panther Mobile! NO ONE wants to see the demise of Global Verge MORE than they're doing for themselves, solely, alone and in spite of themselves! WE ALL NEED YOU TO SEE that WE ALL in Panther Mobile NEED YOU and 100% of YOUR ATTENTION and NOT YOU continuing to SLAM Global Verge as a part of your focus!

      YOU Chris Greco …ARE TOO GOOD for that! SO …how about we cut out the nonsense and GET DOWN TO DOING BUSINESS! You're good Chris and we in Panther Mobile KNOW IT! YOU ARE the reason that SAVED SO MANY coming from Global Verge INTO SOMETHING BETTER and something NEW!

  • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

    Here is more proof THE MARK PETSCHEL contacted us even if by accident to find service here is their IP address Google it your self
    the customer complaints! GV EXPOSED
    E-mail: support@globalmobile1.com, IP: 24.123.106.12. Matthew Cantu. Posted on: 13 Jan 2010 7:06 PM. im sorry but i do not believe you completel …
    http://www.activationkingwireless.com/…/the-customer-c... – Cached
    activation king wireless
    E-mail: support@globalmobile1.com, IP: 24.123.106.12. Trina Bare … E-mail: support@globalmobile1.com, IP: 24.123.106.12. Trina Bare …
    http://www.activationkingwireless.com/wow-even-more-scam... – Cached

    • Kevin Berry

      Neither on of these links work

  • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

    6. Pro Plus CDMA-69.00-Voice & Text

    CDMA PROBUILDER PACKAGE: UNLIMITED TALK AND TEXT CDMA Service includes phones like: Verizon, Alltel, unlocked Sprint Phones, etc. Monthly: $69 plus $20 Activation Fee (1st month only) Receive your cellular service, monthly entrance fee/position in the 3×9 Matrix, personal replicated website with marketing tools, genealogy tracking, full customer support and “REWARDS”when eligible!

  • JT53

    They are telling people that they have an investor or investors that are arranging for or has put in 100 million bucks to start this new deal with Global Group. Just like Piilani, who in the world would gather or could gather 100 million for a telecom start up MLM? It goes around and around and around and around!!!

  • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

    David, First let me say I have enjoyed our discussion. Second as an owner of a brick and mortar store there advantages and disadvantages. I own a couple of stores (not in wireless) and know the good and not so good. A traditional business has to cover sales tax, employees (unless they are not busy enough yet) and employee taxes and fees (I use an employee leasing company), electric, rent or mortgage, in Fl we have tangible and intangible taxes, water, building maintenance, business partners, advertising, (That's where that money is supposed to go, or supplement) etc. Plus the average person does not have the startup capital to attain everything to get the company started. That is why many people turn to MLM. Low startup cost, but not as much in initial commission. But guess what. We offer the opportunity of being paid off other peoples efforts (without the headache of having employees). When one has so little investment and such a large potential in earnings it more than evens out going to work at a job, or your own business for most days in the week. Again, I enjoyed the discussion. By the way, do you sell AT&T. We are. Prepaid AT&T. More to come.

    • David

      Sam,

      No hard feelings…

      Chris ,

      You can tether any phone on the 3g network, As long as you have enough bandwidth..
      With the boost blackberry that is a option through boost..thats not unique to you..

      But Anyway enough of that!

      What I want to see Chris is the Service you said You had the was Unique..

      Im not talking att, tmobile..boost… You stated in your earlier posts numerous times that you have your OWN service.. Thats what us dealers are REALLY looking for. Not some run off from another company.
      Thats What you boasted about so much on here, My question really still stands.. Where is that service??

      Or did I misunderstand??

      Are you just another person in the chain of many people who are able to contact companies and make deals with them because of the number of members you have selling the services And you really do not have nothing Unique like your OWN service??

      And to everyone else reading this, Im sorry to be prying Chris. But In earlier post he stated as much, and im really starting to wonder where this service is or if it even existed..
      just trying to put two and two together..

      • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

        Um if you have been paying attention, You would Know that Unlimited Wizard, a company of our MVNO has its own service, 888-909-4927, And our retail Stores Sell it now! Your close come down to South Carolina and stop by a store, Just because I sell other services doesnt mean I dont sell my own, But unlike others I put the wellfare and Company before my own products,,, Oh but I bet you are use to the BS that Global Verge feeds you, Now you stated you are a Boost Dealer, Are you a BSR agent or just a retailer? most page plus dealers are just in C-stores, So what is it, And how long have you been doing this? how many stores, etc? My company is well know, We have our agreement with verizon and so you know, We have applied at Sprint and T-Mobile as well and I can tell you Sprint will be here in less than 6 months Another MVNO, and they will both be Under panther, We have already filed the name change for verizon, and Sprint will be under Panther. I hope that answers your Question and Yes Panther Will Sell my products as Well, Have you noticed that GV had to go to PAGE PLUS full time once I left? huh yup, And feel free to contact the first 100 reps in panther that came from Unlimited Wizard, and they have the Unlimited Talk text and Data product, And if your a dealer you can sell this as well. Your margin or anyone else is 19.5% off every monthly payment. Is that enough Detail? But if you have a retail store and its SUCCEEDING, why get into MLM? just asking, Hey GV could use someone to offer them service you could really succeed there just make sure you watch your money

        • David

          Chris,

          Your really showing you immaturity here, All i asked is where is your service. And what is it.. You still have not answered that question yet.. other than you have it in your stores. Thats not telling a whole lot.
          If your so in love with GV go back..
          I do not know why you are bringing GV up so much, I could care less about them..
          But i do know you are not fully answering my questions, and you are starting to act like a child here. All i did was ask where your service was..
          Thank you for letting me know with your attitude here that i will be wasting my time with panther, Ill go start looking at Gi connect more closely, After all chris, with that attitude panther will not last long if they let you keep talking for them!

          • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

            for your info Panther is growing, I am not immature but have no patience for Games or BS, You said we were offering the same products as GV, actually were not, And further I have stated I dont know how MANY TIMES on this forum about our agreement, and further that we have UNLIMITED TALK UNLIMITED TEXT, AND UNLIMITED DATA, on VERIZON, I hope that addresses your concerns, And panther is growing because of my PIT BULL attitude and tactics, plain and simple david, Again I will say do your reseach, this company has grown 88% since my arrival and will continue to do so, Because I dont BS my Field, Leaders have options, And further, We actually produce what we say, So if I am immature because I dont take any BS, then so be it, But my track record speaks for itself, 21 years of constant success in WIRELESS BUSINESS, with this attitude and Obviously it is working for me, and people respect someone that owns their mistakes and further doesnt take BS, So if you feel you are wasting your time with panther, Please go to another company, and Ill see you in 12 to 24 months when that company either doesnt deliver, or whatever other excuse there is, See We know what we have here, And it is paying PROVEN DIVIDENDS Now. So Im sorry if you feel you are wasting your time with panther, But I do Not Sugar Coat anything Nor WILL I EVER, feel free to contact me directly if you want to know the particulars of our agreements.

            Chris@unlimitedwizard.com

      • GV victim

        David
        You had said in your post: You can tether ( With the boost blackberry that is a option through boost.. )
        I was just at a Boost Mobile store in my town today and had ask them if i was on there service with there BlackBerry could i tether it to my laptop and they told me they don't have a phone or service for tethering yet !
        So does this Boost store not know about there own phones and service ?
        Thanks

        • David

          GV Victim,

          Any phone can be tethered to a computer, as long as you have the cord that will fit it.
          There are so many programs out there for phones now that it is so easy to tether Every Phone.
          However some are not on the 3G network so they will not work as good as the 3 G will.
          Black berrys all can be tethered to a computer no matter what network they are on, and yes you can use the internet with it.
          Sorry if i misled you, this is nothing boost sells, however you can do it As with any phone on any network.
          Just buy the tether for your phone, Google your phones model, and find the correct apps for it and install them on your computer. Even my Boost i465 will SLOWLY run my laptop. ( trust me on this, if its not the 3g network… your wasting your time if you try this ITs real slow)
          Dealers cannot tell you a phone will do something that they do not offer a phone to do..

  • GV victim

    Well I guess I am drinking more of the GV cool-laid because now
    I am being told that they have new technology dual Sim/CDMA phones!!
    That work off both CDMA and GSM networks, so we will have coverage
    On both networks.
    And they are now a MVNO and have contract signed with Verizon
    And soon with AT&T
    WOW I am excited ! (Coming soon!)
    Is there even such a Phone ? does anyone know ?
    Thanks

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

      GV Victim,

      There are dual sim phones, WOW has one, Panther has one, GiConnect has one, and maybe some of the others.

      • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

        troy you are right but NO in the UNITED STATES has a phone that runs on both technologies, and even if they were able to get MVNO with verizon and att which is imposible, They use Page Plus, and could they resell att yes but they would have to have an att dealer let them use his or her codes, Further, AT&T is not giving out anymore MVNO neither is Verizon go to the sites and look it up GV victim, But look at the posts above Mark Petschel contacted VODA TEXT which is panther yesterday lol, Check the IP address, they have nothing please save yourself the pain, Feel free to check out other companies, the only ones I know of 100% that have viable products are GI Connect, WOW Mobile, and of Course Panther Mobile.
        And the Super Phone is a Chinese Knock off, Do your research.

      • GV victim

        Troy
        Thanks for the reply
        I am not a tech head so I could use some help .

        I went to wowmobile and panthermobile sites and could not find these dual band phones you say they have, and they don't seem to advertise them on the site.
        Could you or someone please put a link on here to them or tell me witch ones they are on there sites so i can check them out .
        Or is these phones maybe something they are going to have in the near future ?
        Thanks

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

          GV Victim,

          The WOW phone if I got the name right is the Samsung i7500 Galaxy phone and the Panther phone which I currently have in my hands is the Duet. I can say Chris greco did say, the phones only work with one platform or the other not both.

          But, like you I am not a cell phone techie.

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  • http://www.SamCFL.com Sam Cleaver

    I'm scared for them. All you crazed former reps don't do anything stupid at Tampa when Ted and Jan hold their little gala!

  • Larry Palm beach

    Now I see that Global Verge is recruiting in Tampa…I hope that the attendees do their due diligence!

  • joe mama

    chris greco you are such a fucking tool! ohhhhhhhhh my cousin is joey greco and oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm tied to the mob! puh-leeeeeeeze.

    • http://www.panthermobile.com Chris Greco

      what are you talking about, you sound like an A** Clown, Oh that must be Ted robbins, Hi ted

  • _Arthur

    Mark P. said, in the weekly CC, that he signed a contract with a MVNO "today" (3/4/2010).

    Marks seems big on things that happens "today" like

    "Were shipping all backlog SIMcards "today""

    "We received 7 crates of phones "today""

    "We received all backlogged phones in our Kansas City warehouse "today""

    In most calls, Mark P alludes to Global Verge warehouses. Must be pretty impressive warehouses.

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  • Little Black Rabbit

    Boy does this company love wasting and spending money. Take it from me. I know….and I'm not a member/non-member, investor or no longer associated with this BS of a company. So, you figure out who I may be. I'll give you a hint. I used to get beat up, slapped around and pounced on from all those members and no longer members. I will say this! If you think your loyal to this company and their loyal back to you! Think again. They will scam, deceive, lie and do whatever it takes to convince you that they are embarking on a new, inventive and creative product, service or otherwise. I have been in the pits with these BS'ers for quite some time now and every time I do the same thing. I shake my head and think to my self. Why in the hell do I tolerate such scum like them. I've watched companys and people take advantage of others and it puts a taste of sh*t on my mouth. It's like having a disabled loved one and then you hire who you think the best in home nurse to come in and care for them while your away. And then come to find out that the nurse has beat the hell out of your helpless loved one. That is exactly what Global Verge is. And time after time I tried to trust my instincts and stick with this company since I was so close to them. And now, just like everybody else. I'm now an enemy of theirs since they stil want to lie to get people to pay their membership fees to pay their chargebacks, employees salaries and to pay of their Pow R Sav & Water Machine debts. So, for all of you who are wondering around like Alice in Wonderland. I am that little black rabbit that has been looking at my clock to see when it will stop. And it has. Because I'm done protecting their lies. So, I'll be watching my clock once more when the big old pile of rubbish of what is now GV will fall to the ground. If anyone really want's to know the truth. I have it. Forget about the fake Recorded Calls to members. It's all BS! Fool me once….shame on you, Fool me twice…shame on me, because I will make a fool out of you!

  • GV victim

    Troy
    I was just wondering why we have not heard anything on this site about Global Verge in over 4 weeks ? ( From you ).
    Is it because there is nothing to report ? Or are you busy with other things ?
    Maybe GV is old news now or they are out of business.
    I'm still looking and researching for a MLM cell phone company .
    Love this site it has been a Great Help !
    Thanks

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

      Well the main reason is everyone is leaving and we are trying to figure out who is left. We are keeping our eyes on things, like the fact the GV website has not gone into a private registry which could mean a boatload of things.

      However, with droves of folks leaving, and the fact GG has taken their tens of thousands of reps out of the game, I am just not sure what is left. We hear a lot of propaganda from Mark & Ted, but from the inside facts we have received, there is nothing new yet.

      Stay tuned we will be doing an update soon.

      • Looking

        Troy,
        What is going on with GG? Any news yet? I am patiently waiting and wanting to evaluate which company can help me help the most people.
        Thanks for all you do!

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/troydooly troydooly

          Looking,

          I talked with Bud on Friday, and as of right now, most of what he told me has to stay off the record. However, they seem to have found a backer, and are getting ready to move forward.

          Bud, did say everything they are doing is going through a major MLM Attorney. If this is the case, and they follow the advice, then at least it is the right first move.

          I'm just curious, why GV has not filed lawsuits against GG, Panther, the distributors etc. XanGo did not waste anytime suing Yoli after they left and started a new company. Amway wasted no time suing MonaVie, Brig Hart, and Orrin Woodward. Wonder what Ted and Mark are afraid of?

      • _Arthur

        GV will start selling $109 Aircard modems, Real Soon Now.

        And they have new Water Machines with "balanced Ph" that goes to 8.2 !!!

  • Bob Parsons

    Hey Troy

    Well so much for the GV scam. However, it gets better!! The Triple Diamonds you called out in your blog are at it again. This timenthey have set up another company called "NewCO".

    Its the same leaders (Not Prtchel and Robbins) with the same BS they trotted out with GV. Varon, Hinson-Phillips, Kahill, Nemeth and the latest is "the fabulous Jan Johnson". ONly last week she was still waxing lyrical about GV and how fantastic it was. Then the weekly call aleert never came – then I find she's in with this new crowd. And…yep, you got it…another fantastic opportunity etc etc – same plan as GV, same tired old promises…there has to be some law to put despicable cheats away for a looooong time.

    Here's a link to the website where you can hear this laughable ploy to get more money from hard working folks. And best of all…the grou (Team GG) is based in Canada, in Montreal – and where do the biggest scams come from? Yep – Montreal.

    http://www.attainingexcellence.com/

  • Bob Parsons

    Hey Troy

    Well so much for the GV scam. However, it gets better!! The Triple Diamonds you called out in your blog are at it again. This timenthey have set up another company called "NewCO".

    Its the same leaders (Not Prtchel and Robbins) with the same BS they trotted out with GV. Varon, Hinson-Phillips, Kahill, Nemeth and the latest is "the fabulous Jan Johnson". ONly last week she was still waxing lyrical about GV and how fantastic it was. Then the weekly call aleert never came – then I find she's in with this new crowd. And…yep, you got it…another fantastic opportunity etc etc – same plan as GV, same tired old promises…there has to be some law to put despicable cheats away for a looooong time.

    Here's a link to the website where you can hear this laughable ploy to get more money from hard working folks. And best of all…the grou (Team GG) is based in Canada, in Montreal – and where do the biggest scams come from? Yep – Montreal.

    http://www.attainingexcellence.com/

    • _Arthur

      Here's another Global Group website:
      http://deliverwhatispromised.com/

      "In a nutshell: Global Group was the largest/fastest growing group in/with Global Verge (GV) – with 25,000 in less than 60 days. Since GV Did NOT DELIVER what was promised, they are a HUGE GROUP in search of an ETHICAL Company – that delivers what is PROMISED…"

      So, what has changed with Global Group NewCo ?

      Nothing: empty words and vague promises, NO PHONES.

  • Real Source

    Bob, get your facts straight. Jan Johnson did not leave Global Verge.

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